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Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by robertlagrant on Thursday December 22, 2022 @10:52AM (#34094595)
That's fair, although I still don't think it's that close. An actually automatic weapon is the sort of thing militaries use, and witout minimising the horror that a bump stock can cause, I think they do far more.

Back to my original point, it's still wrong to say this will happen while we have automatic weapons. Why perpetuate a lie?

Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by dahart on Thursday December 22, 2022 @10:56AM (#34094663)
Several states and the Federal government found bump stock close enough to automatic that they are no longer legal. I’d guess the quote from the article is referring to the same point of view, a thin line from the perspective of the non gun-owning layman.
Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by robertlagrant on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:37PM (#34096017)
It's a thin line because of terrible reporting. This is destructive because until we get basic facts clear the pro-gun people are just not going to take people who say such things seriously. No more "assault-style" weapons or "fully semi-automatic" guns. Just tell the truth and break down the semantic defenses.
Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by dahart on Thursday December 22, 2022 @07:16PM (#34100774)
Naw, it’s a thin line because the whole point of bump stocks is to make a semi-automatic fire like an automatic. Even the NRA says so, this has nothing to do with the quality of reporting.

‘In the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, twelve bump stocks were found at the scene.[7] The National Rifle Association stated on October 5, 2017, "Devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations"’ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_stock#Federal

Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by robertlagrant on Friday December 23, 2022 @06:02AM (#34104460)
> the whole point of bump stocks is to make a semi-automatic fire like an automatic

Then the lawyer should say "we should ban bump stocks" instead of perpetuating the lie that automatic weapons are prevalent in the US.

Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by dahart on Friday December 23, 2022 @11:53AM (#34107964)
They did say that, and now we have fewer automatic-like weapons in the US. Hey I have no problem with your suggestion, I like the alternative wording you offered! I’m just pointing out that the quote was mostly reasonable at the time, I agree it’s slightly inaccurate as a shortcut summary of the situation, but I don’t think it’s as egregious as you claim. I’ll add that one quote out of context from one article does not establish a pattern. You jumped to complaining about the pattern without evidence of a pattern.
Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by robertlagrant on Friday December 23, 2022 @04:59PM (#34111064)
I thought it would be tedious to link to however many examples would illustrate a pattern. I think this wording is pretty commonplace though - military-style rifle, which sounds like "military grade" but is a motte and bailey for "looks military". That sort of thing.

I'm not a gun person at all, but I really despise manipulative language in media. That's why I'm harping on.

Re:Hotels turn to robots and room cleanings every 4 days to ... by dahart on Friday December 23, 2022 @05:51PM (#34111511)
Fair enough, I hear you.