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Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by xxr on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:05AM (#34091763)
They all could have just been basic rich people pulling $600k[0] a year at Jane Street, but they just couldn’t get enough.

[0]This number is completely made up and betrays my total lack of knowledge about what finance people make.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by pclmulqdq on Thursday December 22, 2022 @05:07AM (#34091772)
Early career it's less than that unless you have done something exceptional for them and threatened to leave.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by fnands on Thursday December 22, 2022 @10:16AM (#34094117)
As far as I understand they were making pretty good bank with Alameda doing crypto arbitrage. Could probably have been set for life just doing that.

Human psychology is funny. Not content with being stinking rich in their 20's, they embarked on a massive fraud to get even richer.

To give them the benefit of the doubt, I'm not sure they set out to commit fraud, just make money off suckers, but when the temptation presented itself they couldn't resist it seems.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by cellis on Thursday December 22, 2022 @11:19AM (#34094975)
Their margins got squeezed quickly. Like the trader that makes a million one year and can’t repeat the random walk the next and starts pitching his “trading course” on YouTube instead of continuing to lose money, same for this but replace “trading course” with a much more sophisticated level of how to fleece retail. And they believed in themselves. I still think they don’t consider what they did “fraud”. They’re just now cooperative because the legal needle has pierced their Bahamas and SV bubble.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by michaelcampbell on Sunday December 25, 2022 @12:20PM (#34128967)
> doing crypto arbitrage.

They were, but arbitrage can only last so long and theirs ran out. They were convinced of their own genius I think which is what got them on the FTX train.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by fnands on Wednesday December 28, 2022 @03:55AM (#34158974)
Agreed. I am just fascinated by the fact that they made an few million easily, and instead of rolling that into something productive they went for fraud.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by mookerific on Thursday December 22, 2022 @01:50PM (#34096915)
Reveals, not betrays.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by akulk on Thursday December 22, 2022 @04:01PM (#34098628)
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by smabie on Friday December 23, 2022 @04:27PM (#34110804)
I mean, realistically, making a buck or 2 a year isn't that much.

The real issue is that ftx and alameda could have been massively successful without any fraud.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by dinkumthinkum on Friday December 23, 2022 @05:26PM (#34111307)
You mean if they hadn’t gotten involved in cryptocurrency?