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Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by TotoHorner on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:46AM (#34090239)
> On the other hand, great lawyers and connections might still make something out of it.

That's my concern. Caroline's father is an MIT professor who was previously Gary Gensler's (head of SEC) boss.

It would be extremely disheartening if Caroline gets an extremely generous plea deal due to her father's connections.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by HWR_14 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @01:51AM (#34090588)
What is up with the conspiracy theories that professors are somehow politically powerful entities? Is everyone putting forth these theories still in college? Do they not know how little power college professors wield outside academia.

Personal connections to the head of the SEC on the other hand are valuable.

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Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by HWR_14 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @03:11PM (#34098010)
Honestly, I would imagine SBF's parents being partners at a major firm would be a better indicator than law school professors.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by TotoHorner on Thursday December 22, 2022 @06:41AM (#34092387)
> Do they not know how little power college professors wield outside academia

Are you joking?

That's absolutely not the case for Economics (the context we're talking about here).

Why don't you look up the backgrounds of the people on the Federal Reserve Board of Governors?

Or, look up who drafts major legislation? If you watch MIT's Econ 101 course on YouTube, the professor who teaches it was actually the guy behind Obamacare (John Gruber).

Modern Monetary Policy has become a huge part of a base of the Democratic Party, again... drafted by an Economics Professor.

> Is everyone putting forth these theories still in college? Do they not know how little power college professors wield outside academia.

No. I'm not still in college.

You just seem to be completely unaware on how influential Economists (almost all of whom are college professors) are.

> Personal connections to the head of the SEC on the other hand are valuable

Oh yeah, head of the SEC is also an MIT Econ Professor.

But... clearly they have no power outside academia!!

Saying otherwise is a conspiracy theory!!

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by HWR_14 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @11:25AM (#34095064)
I looked up the backgrounds of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. And? A few were professors for a few years and maybe one made it a major job.

The former head of the SEC was also a partner at Goldman Sachs, where he co-chaired their Finance committee overseeing their internal controls, spent 4 years in an undersecretary position in the treasury department, joined the Senate staff and helped write Sarbanes-Oxley, is former chair of the US CTFC where he overhauled regulations for 6 years.

By my count, that's 12 years of high-level federal government experience, 18 years at Goldman Sachs, and maybe 6 years as a professor. And the professorship was after at least 24 years doing other things at a very high level

You seem to confuse cause and effect

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by vkou on Thursday December 22, 2022 @01:05PM (#34096367)
He also forgets that a large part of the federal reserve is, essentially, a research institution. That does research, publishes and critiques papers, and then takes those papers into account when drafting policy.
Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by TotoHorner on Thursday December 22, 2022 @02:33PM (#34097471)
The question was around whether Economics professors are influential outside of academia.

The answer is unequivocally yes.

You seem to have changed the discussion to something else.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by TotoHorner on Thursday December 22, 2022 @02:36PM (#34097511)
The question is around Economics Professors and their effects on society and how well-connected they tend to be. Many Econ professors at business schools are former bankers. Many bankers are former Econ profs (banks have a ton of staff in research roles).

You’ve changed the argument to… i don’t even know?

The question is whether Economics Professors are influential outside of academia and if they’re well connected. The answer is obviously yes. The top professors (i.e. MIT Profs, Harvard Profs, Yale, etc.) are extremely influential far beyond academia.

It’s anazing how ignorant HN is outside of the narrow circle of programming.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by HWR_14 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @03:07PM (#34097952)
Some business school professors are accomplished former businessmen. Some are just lifelong academics. The ones with power are because of their non-professor credentials and connections.

Schools, business schools especially, like to hire influential people as professors. So there are many powerful professors. But that's not why they are powerful.

Since that's not why they are powerful, there's no reason to bring it up.

Re:Two Executives in Sam Bankman-Fried’s Crypto Empire Plead... by TotoHorner on Friday December 23, 2022 @07:37PM (#34112461)
Again, wrong.

Reread the thread to see why.