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Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by soulofmischief on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @03:21PM (#34085891)
They simply do not make them like they used to. Not after '83. Those frames were a real triumph of human engineering.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by leetrout on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @03:33PM (#34086026)
What would it take to make them again?

Would it just cost too much?

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by analog31 on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @04:16PM (#34086517)
I think lack of demand, and a fragmenting of the component standards, are hurdles. Those old Schwinn (and other brand) frames were made during a time period when there was a lot of interchangeability, and most spare parts are still available. Today, standards for things like bottom brackets change every three years. There's no part on my 1985 frame, that I can't replace today, cheaply.

I can get a brand new lugged steel frame that would be perfect for my use -- a Surly Cross-Check. Seriously the only deterrent is a minor injury has forced me to re-think what my future needs are for geometry. I may need to adopt a more "comfort" posture. Better than not riding. Sucks to get old.

Despite my above comment, and thinking about it more, I want my next bike to be modern in the sense of accommodating fenders and much wider tires. I need horizontal dropouts and to be able to set the rear dropout spacing, to accommodate an internal gear hub (IGH).

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by midoridensha on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:01PM (#34088425)
>Today, standards for things like bottom brackets change every three years.

Your comment is almost a decade out-of-date. Everyone these days has mostly converged on the same threaded BB standard for all but the highest-end bikes. Those press-fit BBs caused too many problems.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by steelframe on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @08:19PM (#34088542)
I would encourage you to get in touch with a reputable custom frame builder and describe your situation and requirements. The local shop I use has been in business for nearly 50 years, and they use components that I can best describe as "tried and true." A bike they built for me in 2014 is something that I can still fully service myself with commonly-available parts and tools.

Meanwhile I damaged a thru-axle of a high-end big-name brand bike (rhymes with "wreck") I bought 2 years ago, and they told me that they no longer stock that part because it's "obsolete" (!)

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by petre on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:50AM (#34090261)
> Seriously the only deterrent is a minor injury has forced me to re-think what my future needs are for geometry

A Cross Check with a flat or alt bar and 30 mm of spacers underneath? That or the Soma Doublecross without all the spacers. Or the new Disc Trucker with extended head tube and the new Truck Stop riser drop bars.

Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by analog31 on Thursday December 22, 2022 @08:45AM (#34093127)
That's purdy. I see what you mean about the geo.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by petre on Thursday December 22, 2022 @09:55AM (#34093866)
I went through the same hurdles after an accident some ten years ago, built several bikes in the meantime including a classic road bike with somewhat similar geometry to the Cross Check, which I knew was not for me. Turns out that it's manageable, although I would probably not use it for a 100k trip. My current go everywhere bike is similar in geometry to the Double Cross, but it's aluminium.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by smm11 on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @04:39PM (#34086752)
Buy the 1972 model I have.
Re:Bike frame stiffness: Why it matters and all you need to ... by petre on Thursday December 22, 2022 @12:47AM (#34090249)
You can always get a lugged custom steel frame, especially in the US. It isn't going to be a bargain, but it will be specially taylored for your body. Otherwise there's Crust, All-City, Rivendell or other quality brands. Or Surly if you want the cheaper overbuilt stuff.