Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by Godel_unicode on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @09:28PM
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Now look at the double digit interest rates they paid on those mortgages. You pay the monthly payment, the top line number is largely irrelevant.
https://www.atlanticbay.com/knowledge-center/history-of-mort....
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by TylerE on Tuesday December 20, 2022 @10:11PM
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They didn’t have cellphone or internet bills. Financing cars wasn’t really a thing.
Trade offs.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by ericd on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @01:00AM
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Those add up to <$100/mo if you do it right, and you generally shouldn’t finance cars.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by sweezyjeezy on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @03:05AM
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Student loans though...
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by Godel_unicode on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @03:24AM
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State schools, not living on campus, and community college though. You are going to college to learn, not to party, right?
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by TylerE on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @04:28AM
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In state tuition is well into 5 figures in a lot of places. Even Community College is more expensive than it used to be - my local is almost $3k/yr
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by Godel_unicode on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @10:16AM
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So a 4 year degree is on the order of 30k, aka what a lot of people pay for one year on campus. That’s pretty easily achievable on entry level salary (I know, work while you’re in school, le horror). Even if you have to take loans the whole way that’s a car note.
Are there people who this is out of reach of? Yes. Would it be cool if it were free? Of course. Is it crippling debt that makes a comfortable life impossible? Don’t be absurd.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by j-krieger on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @06:52AM
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Okay. You now have a harder time at being accepted at the highest paying companies because you didn't graduate from a select few universities. Hell, in law, most companies where you can really earn a good wage don't even hire outside of harvard.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by Godel_unicode on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @10:20AM
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Sounds like a hidden bonus; encouraging people not to be lawyers!
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by bmy78 on Friday December 23, 2022 @03:17PM
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Ok, if you get into Harvard, go to Harvard. Your opportunities in the long run should outweigh any sort of student loans you have to pay back. If you're going to NoName Private College that's 90% of the cost of Harvard, go to state school instead.
And apply to scholarships. Lots and lots of scholarships.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by ljf on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @02:36AM
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Don't forget that until about the mid 90s most people were only buying with one income. And even into the 2000s that second income was often significantly lower.
So that graphs never align that well when you look back and try to say 'in the past it was 3x salary for a house, now it is 6x'
That is as buyer are now competing for houses with two good salaries to buy with.
Re:Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B settling charges it wrongfully s...
by ljf on Wednesday December 21, 2022 @05:47AM
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To add to this, the low interest rates have added the ability for these joint income purchasers to bid higher to win the property they want.
In the UK at least, the move has broadly been in line with the 3x joint salary with mild adjustment for increased borrowing opportunities, but largely driven by the increase in joint salary.
Take a look at average home price by year: https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/research/average-house-price...
Now compare that to average wages: https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/awidevelop.html