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Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by f1refly on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:21PM (#34043590)
Apt updates itself if you instruct it to, the updates also won't restart anything by themselves. I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu.
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by bragr on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:26PM (#34043653)
>also won't restart anything by themselves

Is it very not true? Apt restarts processes and services all the time during upgrades.

Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by tssva on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:29PM (#34043679)
Apt always prompts me as to which services I want to restart following an upgrade.
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by bombolo on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:25PM (#34043635)
I think they might be in ubuntu server installations. I think they aren't enabled by default on debian… at least not on my installs.
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by f1refly on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:33PM (#34043720)
I have a bunch of ubuntu containers at work, none of them self update by default, I know that because I had to enable unattended upgrades manually in all of them. Maybe it's a lxc template thing?
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by bombolo on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:09PM (#34046179)
If you got them from dockerhub or similar… that's not a default ubuntu install.
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by pmontra on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:25PM (#34044385)
When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla.

When Ubuntu prompts me to restart the system after an update I can dismiss the dialog even for weeks, but at a certain point the cumulative updates start making the system behave erratically and I have to restart. Probably kernel, drivers, libc, other vital stuff get too much disaligned.

Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by ElectricalUnion on Sunday December 18, 2022 @08:49PM (#34047228)
> When Firefox is updated by apt on 20.04, it keeps working until I open a new tab. Then it shows a page asking me to restart the browser and won't do anything else until I comply. This is a choice of Mozilla.

Parts of the program were updated and now the program is in a not tested, half-updated, half-old state.

The "other choice" for Mozilla is pretending nothing happened, attempt to open the tab, probably immediatly segfaulting and losing all your current work in a potentially unrecoverable way. Not really a good choice under most circunstances.

Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by pmontra on Monday December 19, 2022 @03:06AM (#34049675)
It started doing that only a few months ago. Apparently it worked in the half updated state before then but of course the implementation and the update process could have changed.
Re:Ubuntu Snap update spoiled my World Cup Final by mmis1000 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @07:47PM (#34046613)
> I don't think unattended upgrades are enabled on debian or on ubuntu.

I don't think it's true, I had the disable unintended upgrade on Ubuntu because it runs cpu at 100% and make very big noise at night.