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Re:Dismantling Sellafield: the epic task of shutting down a ... by dredmorbius on Sunday December 18, 2022 @12:32PM (#34039976)
"Most" measured in hundreds of tonnes leaves a lot of "some" that does not in fact remain in or near the plant, including daughter-elements which are themselves highly bioactive, notably iodine, cesium, and carbon. Uptake of these results in embedded radioactivity within an individual.

Of Hiroshima and Nagasaki specifically:

Among some there is the unfounded fear that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still radioactive; in reality, this is not true. Following a nuclear explosion, there are two forms of residual radioactivity. The first is the fallout of the nuclear material and fission products. Most of this was dispersed in the atmosphere or blown away by the wind. Though some did fall onto the city as black rain, the level of radioactivity today is so low it can be barely distinguished from the trace amounts presents throughout the world as a result of atmospheric tests in the 1950s and 1960s.

<https://k1project.columbia.edu/news/hiroshima-and-nagasaki>

Possibly more applicable to your assertions is the story of "Downwinders", in the US and elsewhere, who lived, and live, downwind of atmospheric testing sites. In the case of Southeastern Utah, particularly the community of St. George, this included some 330 atmospheric nuclear blasts conducted on the Nevada Test Range from 1951--1962. (Similar or larger instances of testing occurred elsewhere, notably in the former Soviet Union, were either less studied or studies are not as publicly available.) Whilst there were definitely health outcomes, those are largely attributable to the immediate and near-term exposure to radioactive fallout, largely in days and months following the blasts. I'm not aware of any significant long-term residual radioactivity in the region, and the Wikipedia article on the subject mentions none:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downwinders>

Contrast the previously mentioned Chernobyl war zone in which Russian soldiers were exposed to radiation consequent to operations in the area, well above acceptable levels, some 35+ years after the incident at the nuclear plant there.

<https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/unprotected-russian-sol...> Archive: <https://archive.vn/aeIix>

The WHO's assessment of present risks at Chernobyl:

Currently, concentrations of radioactive caesium (Cs-137) in agricultural food products produced in areas affected by the Chernobyl fallout are generally below national and international standards for actions. In some limited areas with high radionuclide contamination (e.g. in parts of the Gomel and Mogilev regions in Belarus and the Bryansk region in the Russian Federation) or areas with organic poor soils (the Zhytomir and Rovno regions in Ukraine), milk may still be produced with activity concentrations of Cs-137 that exceed national standards for action (100 Becquerel per kilogram). In these areas, countermeasures and environmental remediation may still be warranted.

<https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/rad...>

Re:Dismantling Sellafield: the epic task of shutting down a ... by littlestymaar on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:57PM (#34041337)
About nuclear testings, from time to time Western Europe still receive radioactive materials from the French nuclear test in the Sahara 60 years ago[1]. That being said, I don't really understand why you seem to be very aware of the effect of radioactive decay and dilution when it comes from atomic bomb fallout, but seems to be absolutely oblivious to the exact same effects for nuclear accidents, even though the nature of the materials involved makes the same effects much stronger in the case of a nuclear accident (because you mostly have light elements leaving, and not the heavy actinides).

> Contrast the previously mentioned Chernobyl war zone in which Russian soldiers were exposed to radiation consequent to operations in the area, well above acceptable levels, some 35+ years after the incident at the nuclear plant there.

The story about Russian soldiers getting radiation sickness was a hoax that have been debunked many times though…

> Currently, concentrations of radioactive caesium (Cs-137) in agricultural food products produced in areas affected by the Chernobyl fallout are generally below national and international standards for actions. In some limited areas with high radionuclide contamination (e.g. in parts of the Gomel and Mogilev regions in Belarus and the Bryansk region in the Russian Federation) or areas with organic poor soils (the Zhytomir and Rovno regions in Ukraine), milk may still be produced with activity concentrations of Cs-137 that exceed national standards for action (100 Becquerel per kilogram). In these areas, countermeasures and environmental remediation may still be warranted.

You haven't really read that paragraph have you? Because it says exactly the same thing as I did in the comment you answer to: “Growing crop or raising cattle there will stay ill-advised for a few more decades though, because the only real risk at this point comes from ingestion of Cesium 137”. There's an enormous margin between “you can farm milk in the area for a few decades” and “will in fact be uninhabitable and restricted for at least many centuries, if not thousands of years”.

[1]: https://www.lexpress.fr/sciences-sante/sciences/nucleaire-de...