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Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by whoevercares on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:23AM (#34039192)
Geopolitics that is in favor of Argentina?? That does not make any sense.

I would buy that story if it were for China - look at all the ads and they even built the stadium. Too fantasy though since China men’s soccer team is a total joke

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by NhanH on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:28AM (#34039260)
In 2018 there was 29 penalties in total. This year there is 17 penalties during the matches (including the final so far), with Argentina getting 5 out of 17.

It is unusual enough to let people wonder.

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by koolba on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:40AM (#34039402)
That’s meaningless without a denominator. All other things being equal, the team with more time spent in the opponents box would be expected to have more penalty kicks.

EDIT: And just as I write this France draws a penalty!

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by whoevercares on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:44AM (#34039440)
What the hell!!!! It’s a draw now
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by NhanH on Sunday December 18, 2022 @12:01PM (#34039623)
I have no horse in this fight, just wanted to point out a curious fact.

That said, the denominator/ top team argument only holds if Argentina was the most dominant team in the cup by a landslide (considering the ratio of the total penalties). They weren’t, they performed mostly in the same pack of France/England/ Portugal. Brazil would be the only team that was blatantly more dominant. Another denominator could potentially be number of foul against, and I would be surprised if it is that lopsided.

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by kaesar14 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:34AM (#34039322)
Doesn’t seem unusual that a top team would get more penalties
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by balaji1 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @12:02PM (#34039630)
True. And reckless challenges seem to be going up in general.

Did someone count the number of cards and penalties against Arsenal last season?

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by boomboomsubban on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:32AM (#34039296)
FIFA very possibly wants Argentina to win, not for geopolitical reasons but to sell the Messi legend more.
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by whoevercares on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:35AM (#34039335)
Ah Plausible - Hero’s journey! Like Hollywood but it always works
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by balaji1 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:45AM (#34039448)
Yes. Maybe there is greater commercial value of a Messi + Argentina win. But then now (at 81'), it seems they haven't made up their mind. 2-2.
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by cryptonector on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:49PM (#34041200)
The longer people watch the game, the better, no?
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by Darmody on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:26AM (#34039231)
More in favour of Qatar.

They spend 10 times more than the other countries to host the world cup. They want it to be a big hit. That's why FIFA has been saying that this is the best wold cup ever and bla bla bla.

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by whoevercares on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:30AM (#34039275)
Ok that looks like game gambling and manipulation much more than geopolitics. Not surprised if Qatar has a fair share there
Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by Darmody on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:35AM (#34039329)
It's Qatar playing geopolitics. They didn't spend $200+ billion because they love football.

They want something big to show the world. What better than having one of the best players ever win a world cup before retiring?

That's how I see it.

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by phlakaton on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:46PM (#34041154)
One of the best players in the game was going to win no matter which side won. This looked like a pretty fairly-called contest to me.

But hey, even a 7–1 beatdown of the favorites can make for a memorable and entertaining World Cup.

Re:Lionel Messi Is Impossible (2014) by galgot on Sunday December 18, 2022 @01:58PM (#34041361)
It's not about France or Argentina. It's about the PSG, a club owned by Qatar (buye... ahem... host of the world cup), where both Messi and Mbappé plays.