Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by dagmx on Sunday December 18, 2022 @02:06AM
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You do have full access to what you buy. While it would be nice to both have full access AND the security, that’s still not denying you full access.
Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by pjmlp on Sunday December 18, 2022 @03:25AM
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This is not for you, rather for the kind of people that get Ask Jeeves installed when clicking on popups while browsing the Web.
Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by counttheforks on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:41AM
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They shouldn't have the same rights? Just because someone is less technologically aware today, you think it's OK to start stripping away their rights? That's like saying poor people shouldn't be allowed to own a house because they won't be able to afford the maintenance.
Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by pjmlp on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:46AM
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Many insurances don't cover house repairs if not done by companies specialised on the repair domain....
Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by dagmx on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:15AM
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The more accurate version of your analogy is that they can choose to do their maintenance, they just won’t be covered by insurance (their own or that of a tradesman) if something goes wrong.
That is actually how it is in reality, and maps very well to as analogies go to GM the two levels of SIP.
Re:Get root on macOS 13.0.1 the macOS Dirty Cow bug
by Aaron2222 on Sunday December 18, 2022 @04:21AM
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The new cryptex mechanism could be used to allow persistent modifications to the SSV (that's how it's done on the iOS Security Research Devices), but no idea if Apple will actually implement that.
Disabling it is ok but the problem with that is that you lose all security. There should be a way to add our own signing keys to persist changes to the SSV (Signed System Volume) and SIP protected folders. It shouldn't be trust only Apple or nothing.