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Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by ohyes on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:04PM (#34029679)
Tbh if oculus weren’t associated with Facebook in a meaningful way I’d be all over it. But it is so I avoid it. The technology works fine but is a commercial failure, that’s not wholly Carmack’s fault.
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by onepointsixC on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:30PM (#34031254)
Why do you think it's a commercial failure?
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by Eisenstein on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:03AM (#34037706)
It is probably helpful to define 'commercial failure'. In the sense that it sold a lot of units, it is a success; in the sense that it made any money for the company which produced it, it is a failure. So, it could be taken different ways depending on how the term is defined.
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by ohyes on Monday December 19, 2022 @09:39AM (#34052520)
I think, in terms of the hype, VR was going to be the next big thing in gaming, and then maybe not just gaming after that, but other applications. So I was expecting it to become a required peripheral like a headset or a good mouse & keyboard.

But I don’t feel like I’ve missed anything by not having a VR headset. Like the product direction was very clear for oculus, had lots of buy in from devs… then it was bought by Facebook and became so much muddier. (“We’re going to use it in the meta-verse for boring work stuff” VR will be everything).

You need an exciting killer app for these things and they need to be commodity hardware. I’m guessing the best thing anyone could do for VR is give up all their patents.

Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by Shared404 on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:33PM (#34031283)
I also fall into this category.

Oculus without facebook would have probably sold me multiple pieces of hardware right now.

With Facebook however, I'll never touch the stuff.

Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by nickthegreek on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:49PM (#34031462)
While I completely agree with you. I think it’s important to point out that if it wasn’t sold by Facebook, it would be 2.5x the cost and then most people wouldn’t touch it as it would be too big of an investment.
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by bee_rider on Saturday December 17, 2022 @06:40PM (#34033435)
Yea it is a device that goes on your face, puts cameras in your room, and creates a pseudo-reality for you. Who in their right mind would trust Facebook with that?
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by WA on Sunday December 18, 2022 @03:14AM (#34035893)
The millions of people who put microphones from Amazon or Google in their homes.
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by shapefrog on Sunday December 18, 2022 @05:29AM (#34036424)
That simply demonstrates how low a regard people have for facebook.
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by taylorius on Sunday December 18, 2022 @08:40AM (#34037520)
No no, we're looking for people "in their right mind"
Re:John Carmack Leaves Meta by zem on Monday December 19, 2022 @04:17AM (#34050082)
in my experience, even those people tend not to trust facebook