Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by mannykannot on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:13AM
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This seems to be correct - it appears to be the "a model is not that which it models" argument, which is Searle's only response to the Simulation Reply to his Chinese Room - but a model of a thing can have properties of that thing (a model boat can float, create a wake etc.), and an informational process can be modeled by another. Are minds informational processes instantiated by brains? It is plausible, and the model argument does not rule it out.
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Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by sirsinsalot on Saturday December 17, 2022 @07:15AM
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If it was the ops intent, they mangled it to the point I'm not even sure.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by tacitusarc on Saturday December 17, 2022 @11:09AM
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Interestingly, a model of a boat is, in itself, a small boat.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by mannykannot on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:11AM
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To be clear, that doesn't refute the point I am making.
For anyone who suspects it might (I'm not sure how...) consider this: a model of the Titanic (or a replica, for that matter) is not the Titanic. A model of your brain would neither be your brain nor necessarily a brain at all, but whether it could think is a different question.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by tacitusarc on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:29PM
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I was only observing that while the model of a thing is not always that thing, sometimes it is.