Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by mannykannot on Saturday December 17, 2022 @12:13AM
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This seems to be correct - it appears to be the "a model is not that which it models" argument, which is Searle's only response to the Simulation Reply to his Chinese Room - but a model of a thing can have properties of that thing (a model boat can float, create a wake etc.), and an informational process can be modeled by another. Are minds informational processes instantiated by brains? It is plausible, and the model argument does not rule it out.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by sirsinsalot on Saturday December 17, 2022 @07:15AM
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If it was the ops intent, they mangled it to the point I'm not even sure.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by tacitusarc on Saturday December 17, 2022 @11:09AM
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Interestingly, a model of a boat is, in itself, a small boat.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by mannykannot on Sunday December 18, 2022 @11:11AM
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To be clear, that doesn't refute the point I am making.
For anyone who suspects it might (I'm not sure how...) consider this: a model of the Titanic (or a replica, for that matter) is not the Titanic. A model of your brain would neither be your brain nor necessarily a brain at all, but whether it could think is a different question.
Re:Peter Norvig critically reviews AlphaCode's code quality
by tacitusarc on Tuesday December 27, 2022 @01:29PM
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I was only observing that while the model of a thing is not always that thing, sometimes it is.
With AI that application of logic is an argument around the semantics of interface.
That's the most compassionate take on their words I could muster.