Re:Risk of 'dead pool' looms at Colorado River meeting
by ViViDboarder on Friday December 16, 2022 @07:32PM
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It doesn’t look like you disagree to me. The result of such taxes or regulations is less and more expensive consumption.
Re:Risk of 'dead pool' looms at Colorado River meeting
by smcl on Friday December 16, 2022 @08:17PM
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I read that the original comment was laying the blame at the feet of individual consumer choices - implying that if people simply bought/consumed less of … whatever is causing the Colorado river to be depleted then things would fix themselves. And the reply is saying that there need to be explicit regulations to cause this, presumably because people have really no way to know the what environmental impact each dollar they spend has and where.
Re:Risk of 'dead pool' looms at Colorado River meeting
by philsnow on Friday December 16, 2022 @09:03PM
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I read it the same way, similarly to PR campaigns that tell Californians to water their lawns less and take fewer and shorter showers, even thought that usage uses by far less water than ag or industrial uses.
Re:Risk of 'dead pool' looms at Colorado River meeting
by reducesuffering on Saturday December 17, 2022 @02:11AM
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We should all do our part. Less ag and industrial products means a higher cost for us all.
Re:Risk of 'dead pool' looms at Colorado River meeting
by HEmanZ on Friday December 16, 2022 @08:53PM
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I think you’re reading the wrong thing into my comment. I would absolutely agree the problem is that externalities aren’t priced in. The result of pricing those in would be that everything gets more expensive and consumers get to consume less.
I don’t like the idea of blaming companies anymore than blaming individual consumers. They’re working in the same market
I couldn’t disagree more. We need more regulation and taxation, and the real cost of the externalities added to the end product. The public is subsidizing and paying for private industry to pollute and use resources without accountability. That needs to end. The idea that the problem is solely due to personal consumption by individuals is a greenwashing tactic used by corporations to avoid responsibility for their products. The real solution is to put up barriers to producing these products and make the companies pay for their impact on the planet. This strange, antisocial idea that companies aren’t part of the social contract and don’t have to follow the rules of governments and civilization needs to be called out.