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Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by echelon on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:22PM (#34019783)
I think you're absolutely correct. The show was campy, and in time, would have become grating and fallen apart.

Star Wars, once lauded, has been milked dry. There are a few good works, but by and large they're beating a dead horse.

The same thing is happening to Marvel. People checked out after Endgame.

Game of Thrones was so near to perfection. It had an unusually large cast of a hundred characters and an expansive world to draw down. But even if the new show is good, the magic is gone.

The mystery of Stranger Things after season one ended. We're getting a rehash with common character tropes you can find anywhere.

The allure of Westworld softened after season one attempted to open up to bigger themes, but actually cut down on the possibility space.

The third Godfather. Dexter. Every single Jurassic Park but the first. Jaws. On and on.

Chiefly, it's simply a function of multiplied probabilities to continue with a success streak. Eventually the odds do not pay off in your favor.

But I think another contributing factor is that our brains begin to fit the shape of the setting, the motifs, the character arcs, the narrative world - and we just aren't surprised or pleased any longer. Few people would ask for twenty seasons of a show. Or ten movies in a given franchise. Our brains learn the shape of the landscape and grow bored.

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by HWR_14 on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:36PM (#34019995)
> The same thing is happening to Marvel. People checked out after Endgame.

First, it would be weird to say that was because Marvel was falling apart. It was the conclusion of a decade long movie franchise. Of course people might watch something else once the story they had been following was done. It doesn't mean they won't come back or didn't like the new movies, it means they wanted a break.

But mainly, it's also not true. Leaving aside 2020 (when Marvel released their movies all online), let's look at 2021. 4 out of the top 10 movies were Marvel movies (including number 1).

In 2022, they have 3 of the top 10 slots. They were beaten out by the Top Gun reboot and the latest Jurassic Park

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by echelon on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:04PM (#34020350)
> it means they wanted a break

My point exactly. We tire of the familiar.

> 4 out of the top 10 movies were Marvel movies

Disney operates at a scale none of their peers can match. They have the most well tuned pipeline of any production company. I'd expect this.

Nevertheless, metrics point to declining interest. If I had time to write a longer comment, I'd be able to cite sources and offer more than just a suggestion to google "marvel fatigue".

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by HWR_14 on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:28PM (#34021471)
Wanting something different is not the statement that you were originally making. Your original contention was that quality goes down, it "becomes grating and falls apart".
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by BLKNSLVR on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:45PM (#34020892)
> They were beaten out by the Top Gun reboot and the latest Jurassic Park

Which is both sad and hilarious in the context of this thread

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by HWR_14 on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:27PM (#34021441)
I mean, rounding out the top 10 of 2022 are the latest Minions, Batman, Harry Potter, Sonic the Hedgehog (for some reason) and a sequel to a Chinese movie which was in the top 10 in 2021. Nothing original at all in 2022, and the big things that may still break into the top 10 (e.g. Avatar 2) are also sequels.

In 2021, the only original things were the highest production cost Chinese movie in history that glorified the Chinese army vanquishing their enemies (South Korea, the US) in the Korean War (this is the one that got a sequel) and a Chinese comedy. The western movies were the latest Bond, Fast and Furious, Kong vs. Godzilla, and Sing 2.

(A Chinese movie series also was in the top 10 in 2021)

Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by ghaff on Friday December 16, 2022 @04:27PM (#34020673)
Yeah, some of the sometimes literal Wild West in space was fun given appealing characters. Even Serenity worked pretty well. I'm not sure how it would have played out longer term. I certainly probably appreciate it better as a brief fan fave than something that maybe wore out its welcome sooner rather than later.
Re:‘Luddite’ Teens Don’t Want Your Likes by rufus_foreman on Friday December 16, 2022 @05:30PM (#34021485)
>> Star Wars, once lauded, has been milked dry. There are a few good works, but by and large they're beating a dead horse

That's been true since 1983.