Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by PopAlongKid on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:15PM
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I appreciate the replies. Still wondering why this could be -- what is it about the truck battery that makes it cheaper? Or are powerwalls simply over-priced?
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Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by Avshalom on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:23PM
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Powerwalls aren't a business' core product, so they're priced at "how much to make it worth our time".
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by dmix on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:31PM
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Powerwall should still benefit from the economies of scale being put into Tesla cars and their battery plants. It’s a fair question why a truck would still be competitive.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by Avshalom on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:25PM
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but again, they don't actually want to sell powerwalls, they want to sell cars, they're just willing to sell powerwalls.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by bryanlarsen on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:11PM
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There are a bunch of companies selling powerall type stuff as their core product. Ecoflow, Bluetti, etc.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by svnt on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:20PM
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Powerwalls are both a niche and premium product, provided by basically one company, EVs are neither.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by bryanlarsen on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:10PM
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There are probably more companies making powerwall type products than there are car companies. For example, emergency power generation companies like Generac have them, there's an ecosystem of companies competing with Jackery that are attacking it from the bottom (ecoflow, bluetti, etc), a lot of solar and solar-adjacent companies have one (enphase, myenergi, etc).
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by svnt on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:39PM
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I doubt what you said is true but irrespective, number of companies != size of market, and the companies you mention serve different markets/functions, so a consumer product company also != an EV company. It is relatively easy to design/build/sell a functional powerwall or generator equivalent, but one person cannot get into the market with an EV.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by bryanlarsen on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:06PM
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Your last statement is the reason why mine is true. I'm not trying to imply that the average powerwall company is comparable to an EV company.
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by svnt on Sunday December 18, 2022 @09:16PM
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Then isn’t it also the reason why your statement isn’t relevant to the point I was making?
Re:Ford again hikes the starting price of the F150 Lighting ...
by bryanlarsen on Monday December 19, 2022 @06:56AM
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Your original statement was "Powerwalls are both a niche and premium product, provided by basically one company, "
Tesla has a very small fraction of this market. Most of the market is outside the US, and Tesla basically only operates in the US for power walls.