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Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by coding123 on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:10PM (#34017133)
Musk is not conservative. He's just a democrat stuck in the 1990s like pretty much everyone else.

This is how I see it, the year you identify as the best decade (and you were a democrat in that decade), reveals your new politics:

1980 Democrats are FAR RIGHT today (and clearly now republican).

1990 Democrats are Right today (and now republican).

2000 Democrats are moderate today (and maybe republican, independent or democrat)

2010 Democrats are Left today (and likely still democrat)

2020 Democrats are FAR LEFT.

Conservatives are similar, but you just shift them two sections right, so 1990 Republicans are FAR FAR RIGHT now.

In 50 years we'll have very old trans men and women on the FAR RIGHT complaining that back in their day only natural Human beings could get married after changing genders, and that it should be illegal to marry a human that started as a Frog then a pig then a human through genetic manipulation.

edited to make it more clear, the year + politics of that year => spits out your politics today.

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by thebradbain on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:28PM (#34017402)
By that logic, FDR was so far left he broke the scale! In the… 30s.

And yet he was considered then (and now) as less socialist / more politically to the right than many leaders in Europe at the time.

He was our most progressive president, and certainly further left than any US president since, but even he wasn’t “far left.” And certainly the neoliberal gerontocracy that dominates the current democratic party is nowhere near as left as he was.

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by schiffern on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:54PM (#34017749)
I don't agree with his theory, but I also don't think it's a coincidence his "history" only extends back so far.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by coding123 on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:58PM (#34017812)
I encourage you to test it out. Ask people:

What is your favorite decade?

What political party were you associated with IN that decade - be honest?

What political party are you now?

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by schiffern on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:21PM (#34018107)
I think you're commenting on real trends (economic and political) in the ongoing post-Reaganomics/post-Thatcherism era

However, you greatly overstate your case by saying that an individual person's politics can be "revealed" "just" based on that alone, or that the difference between parties is "just" equivalent to two decades.

A road grader is a wonderful machine, just don't try using it as a scalpel. :)

https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/706889

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/wbna46057552

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by giraffe_lady on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:33PM (#34017495)
You can literally just compare platforms to parties in other industrialized democracies to figure this out. The democrats would be firmly center-right with centrist social positions anywhere else.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by maxlamb on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:18PM (#34017240)
Can you explain why 1980 Democrats were far right?
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by coding123 on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:32PM (#34017469)
1980 democrats were left back in 1980, in 2022 they are far right republicans
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by maxlamb on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:43PM (#34017640)
If 2022 democrats are far right republicans, what are 2022 republicans?
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by coding123 on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:53PM (#34017736)
2022 democrats are far left not far right.

for 2020 republicans, just shift 2, they're just moderates

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by maxlamb on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:08PM (#34017955)
Can you explain why Joe Biden is far left? I’m curious.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by timeon on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:51PM (#34018474)
Then there is this Jan 6th thing...
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by smithcoin on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:54PM (#34017750)
Nazis \s
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by theGnuMe on Saturday December 17, 2022 @09:15AM (#34027902)
You joke but you are not wrong. One could argue actually they were nazis before that.

Repubs and dems switched platforms awhile back though. People need to read up on the dixiecrats. Nixon turned them back into republicans though.

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by jsimzeroone on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:13PM (#34018726)
They weren't. The alt-right seeks to erase distinctions so all things mean whatever they want at the moment.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by krapp on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:20PM (#34017271)
Except the Democrats have never been close to "far left." Outside of the hyperbolic fear-mongering of Republicans calling everyone and everything outside of their party Marxist, The Dems are barely even recognizable as left-wing anywhere in the world. They're only "leftist" in that they're center-right compared to the Republicans far-right.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by martindbp on Friday December 16, 2022 @12:53PM (#34017731)
The Dems are not as left economically, but socially I would say they're left of even the Left Party in Sweden (formerly known as the Communists). The pronoun trend, white guilt, critical race theory all started in the US and are still less of a thing here. Since 2015 there's been the neutral pronoun ("hen" vs han (he) and hon (she)), but AFAIK that was more about gender equality at the time, not trans issues.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by ohCh6zos on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:36PM (#34018280)
The Republican party progressive and the Democratic party is incredibly progressive. We do not have anything resembling a regressive party in the USA in any real sense.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by krapp on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:46PM (#34018423)
In what way is the Republican party progressive? They're so categorically anti-progressive, they use the term as a pejorative.
Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by ohCh6zos on Friday December 16, 2022 @02:47PM (#34019291)
The Republican party has yielded on basically every issue in living memory. They're the Democratic party with a built-in time delay. They only exist to bring up the rear of what is acceptable in the Overton window, not promote any policy of their own.

If you want examples The Republicans fought the New Deal hard and then dropped it. The Republicans fought the Great Society and then dropped it. The Republicans fought gay marriage every step of the way and now recently have members voting for the Respect for Marriage Act.

They don't present policy, they just fight progress de jour until it is time to move to the next thing that needs opposition.

Re:The Boring Conservatism of Elon Musk by theGnuMe on Saturday December 17, 2022 @09:16AM (#34027911)
They bow to popular opinion. They use wedge issues to maintain power and control which is what it is about. That and grifting.