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Re:Autopsy-based characterization of myocarditis after anti-... by Izkata on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:27PM (#34007818)
> If vaccination prevents you from catching covid, then it has prevented you from spreading covid to those you would have otherwise.

Depends on what you mean by "covid" here. If you're referring to the virus, then no - this is a misconception. The vaccines at best only reduce symptoms, they don't stop infection or transmission.

> versus several asymptomatic days while unknowingly contagious

This was also an early guess that turned out to be wrong. We've known this wasn't a thing for years, at least before these vaccines.

> My reply was intentionally simple in order to drive home a point about selfish versus societal viewpoints.

Right now, getting vaccinated is the selfish action because it's likely to turn you into an asymptomatic spreader. At least when unvaccinated you'll know to stay home.

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Re:Autopsy-based characterization of myocarditis after anti-... by ceejayoz on Thursday December 15, 2022 @08:41PM (#34008465)
> Right now, getting vaccinated is the selfish action because it's likely to turn you into an asymptomatic spreader. At least when unvaccinated you'll know to stay home.

This is a) insane and b) directly contradicts the point you tried to make above it.

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Re:Autopsy-based characterization of myocarditis after anti-... by Izkata on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:21PM (#34009549)
How does it contradict it? These vaccines reduce symptoms without stopping infection/transmission -> you're helping yourself without helping the community -> it's the selfish action.
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Re:Autopsy-based characterization of myocarditis after anti-... by ceejayoz on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:24PM (#34009576)
You can't argue asymptomatic spread isn't a thing, and then claim the vaccines are bad because they cause asymptomatic spread.
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Re:Autopsy-based characterization of myocarditis after anti-... by Izkata on Thursday December 15, 2022 @11:14PM (#34010086)
> > We've known this wasn't a thing for years, at least before these vaccines.

If I remember the timeline right it was mid/late 2020 we realized that assumption was wrong, then about a year later it was apparent the vaccines weren't stopping the spread. So yeah, my statements are entirely consistent: There wasn't before the vaccines, there was after.

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