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Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by jacquesm on Thursday December 15, 2022 @06:14PM (#34007163)
That's exactly that lack of empathy the OP was on about: if you don't see that there is something wrong by a bunch of programmers feeding everybody's work into the meatgrinder and then to start spitting out stuff that they claim is original work when they probably couldn't draw a stick figure themselves then it is clear that something isn't quite right. At least, to me.
Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by Nursie on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:44PM (#34009082)
As someone who has always had a huge gap between what I can imagine and what I can manifest, outside of text anyway, I find the whole thing amazing and massively enabling. And I think it is possible to come up with original images, even though the styles are usually derivative.

At the same time I recognise that this is a massive threat to artists, both low-visibility folks who throw out concepts and logos for companies, and people who may sell their art to the public. Because I can spend a couple of dollars and half an hour to come up with an image I’d be happy to put on my wall.

I’m not sure what the answer is here, but I don’t think a sort of “human origin art” Puritanism is going to hold back the flood, though it may secure a niche like handmade craft goods and organic food…

Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by jacquesm on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:11PM (#34009423)
What will happen is exactly the same thing that happened when email made mass mailings possible: a torrent of very low quality art will begin to drown out the better stuff because there is no skill required to produce a flood of trash whereas to produce original work takes talent and time.

As the price of a bit dropped the quality of the comms dropped. It is inevitable that the price of the creation of (crappy) art will do the same thing if only because it will drag down the average.

Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by tremon on Saturday December 17, 2022 @08:55AM (#34027749)
a torrent of very low quality art will begin to drown out the better stuff because there is no skill required to produce a flood of trash

Case in point: https://stackoverflow.com/help/gpt-policy

> This trust is broken when users copy and paste information into answers without validating that the answer provided by GPT is correct, ensuring that the sources used in the answer are properly cited (a service GPT does not provide), and verifying that the answer provided by GPT clearly and concisely answers the question asked.

Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by msmenardi on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:05PM (#34017896)
The goal of programming as a discipline is to create tools that allow problems to be solved. Art is a problem - how do I express myself to others? The entire industry is designed for moments like this.
Re:Who knew the first AI battles would be fought by artists? by evolve2k on Friday December 16, 2022 @03:53PM (#34020214)
Unlike many other professions, I don’t think there is much crictical thought from the tech community as to what tech and programming is and isn’t for.

A few people engaged in “hand ringing” but not deep, regular discourse on the evolving nature of what we want “tech” and “programming” to be going forward.

Despite delivering transformative social shifts, even this last decade, where is the collective reflection?