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Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by time_to_smile on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:27PM (#34002807)
The real issue with any of these AI innovations is they really point out places where humans have already started to behave like an AI in the first place.

Ever since the emergence of leetcode style interviews I've been shocked at how many people can reproduce leetcode examples, but still fundamentally have no sense of algorithm design outside of the context of a job interview.

Programmers with their sights set on acing a FAANG interview will just keep repeating leetcode problems until they start to memorize the common patterns (not the problems themselves of course, but the structure of these type of problems). What's disturbing to me is that I recall far more interesting discussion about algorithms in the era before leetcode dominated everything.

The common solution isn't to understand algorithms better, but to become a leetcode solving robot.

So it's no surprise to me that AI can pretty easily replicate humans that have tried to turn themselves into robots.

We see similar patterns in the art that AI can create. It's very good at replicating a kind of art style of designers trying to turn themselves into design robots.

Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by codekilla on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:27PM (#34003567)
Absolutely spot on. I actually do algorithm design, usually over a period of weeks (at least), and leet code is a joke for the serious algorist (I’m sure I’d fail an interview based on it). Nothing has so clearly illustrated the robotic nature of the leet code expert quite like this result has.
Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by savingsPossible on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:56PM (#34003956)
Do tell!

What sort of job leads you do design algorithms?

Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by codekilla on Thursday December 15, 2022 @02:39PM (#34004540)
Mathematical Biology/Bioinformatics. We have to think very carefully about every step in the process of extracting information from large, diverse datasets--often writing things from scratch, combining/transforming things in novel ways, and implementing new mathematical ideas efficiently enough to be computable on large datasets.
Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by mindentropy on Friday December 16, 2022 @01:05PM (#34017901)
I see several argue that if you are poor at leetcode then you cannot be a serious algorist. Can you explain why that argument is wrong?
Re:DeepMind’s AlphaCode Conquers Coding, Performing as Well ... by andrekandre on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:29PM (#34003585)

  > So it's no surprise to me that AI can pretty easily replicate humans that have tried to turn themselves into robots.
this is such a great insight... i feel like it could even somehow explain a lot of politics and many other phenomena.