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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by tomcam on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:23AM (#33998401)
> For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile.

Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by vibrio on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:33AM (#33998522)
Ironically, digging up out-of-context history to disparage someone sounds like a “cancel culture” tactic.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Operative0198 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:58AM (#33998834)
I thought cancel culture was a positive thing.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by vibrio on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:06AM (#33999639)
What you and I think are not really important in this conversation. Elon believes that the Woke Mind Virus is an existential threat to mankind. Perhaps he has been infected.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Operative0198 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:50AM (#34001360)
Maybe he's infected. But he's certainly not entirely wrong on that claim. There's people academically smarter than him that share the same belief.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by vibrio on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:40PM (#34006155)
Is he not entirely wrong in warning “Cancel culture is bad” or not entirely wrong in Canceling someone?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Operative0198 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @05:54PM (#34006962)
Whatever you said he believes in on your previous comment.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by tomcam on Thursday December 15, 2022 @09:22PM (#34008846)
What's out of context?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by paulgb on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:37AM (#33998570)
Don’t you see the irony here, though?

When a very powerful man with a large following “just posts a screenshot”, he is supposed to be unaccountable for the actions his followers take, even if his additional context dog-whistles to his fans that the guy is a pedo.

When a relative nobody “just posts already-public information about a physical object”, suddenly that’s not just worthy of a ban, but of a nuisance lawsuit.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/dy79wm/elon-musk-yoel-ro...

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by pibechorro on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:47AM (#33998690)
No one is accountable for the actions of others if they where not explicitly directed.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by paulgb on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:59AM (#33998838)
And yet Musk is suing the @elonjet guy because someone attacked his car.

See what I mean by the irony?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944?s=20...

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by foldr on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:31AM (#33998497)
He also misrepresented what the thesis was saying in the same tweet, deliberately playing into homophobic tropes associating gay people with pedophilia.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by hn_throwaway_99 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:51AM (#33998745)
> Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

That is BS. Musk posted it with this false comment, which he knew would enrage his followers (and it did, I saw tons of "all pedophiles deserve to die" about Roth after this):

> Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis.

Which is, unsurprisingly, the exact opposite of what Roth was arguing for. Here is what the DailyMail (not exactly a liberal rag) said about Roth's thesis:

> Roth wrote that, as underage youngsters use the app anyway, an age-appropriate version should be created to offer help to LGBT youth

In other words, he specifically wanted to separate kids from an app that was intended for adults.

Now, people can definitely debate in good faith whether Roth's argument is a good idea or not - I think it's most definitely not. But it's not because of the absolutely false trope that Roth wants to make kids available to adults, which is basically what Musk has deliberately whipped up his followers into a frenzy about.