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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ssnistfajen on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:01AM (#33996547)
Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info.

The only bad faith argument here is claiming publishing publicly available information is somehow endangerment.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by extropy on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:30AM (#33996735)
Let me argue from the other end. The incident happened, which is obv not good.

What where the causes? How can we prevent this from happening again? What do other high profile perons do to prevent this from happening?

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Eisenstein on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:13AM (#33997034)
> What where the causes?

Elon loves to shove himself front and center into the public eye and to stoke a fanbase. Large groups of people inevitably contain some crazy ones. Obsessive para-social relations often lead to unhinged fans stalking or harassing the targets of their obsession. This is so common it has a term coined by Eminem: "Stan".

> How can we prevent this from happening again?

Celebrities are often stalked not just by fans but by reporters. Princess Di was arguably put in a situation by photographers which led to a car crash and her death. It appears the solutions are either:

(1) Don't be famous, or be the type of famous person that has a low profile (there are a lot of them)

(2) If you are a billionaire then you can afford a security detail -- get one

(3) Support real mental health efforts and legislation which funds support for people with mental health issues, instead of sticking them in prison or making them live on the street

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by convery on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:35AM (#33997200)
So the tl;dr: "If you don't want your kid to be stalked, and the car driving them assaulted, surround them with bodyguards 24/7 or stop being famous". HN really is turning into Reddit these days..
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Eisenstein on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:46AM (#33997269)
> "If you don't want your kid to be stalked, and the car driving them assaulted, surround them with bodyguards 24/7 or stop being famous"

The only defense against stalkers is to avoid being stalked or to physically prevent them from stalking you. What is your solution?

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by djbebs on Thursday December 15, 2022 @07:47AM (#33998693)
Not having laws that actively enable the stalking is a good start
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Eisenstein on Thursday December 15, 2022 @10:51AM (#34001372)
What are some examples of these laws?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by BlargMcLarg on Thursday December 15, 2022 @05:14AM (#33997467)
And Elon also goes against common advice and purposely paints a giant target on himself. Not all too irrelevant considering kids are taught at age 2 and held accountable for creating enemies.

Elon's case isn't exactly average even among the ultra-rich.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by baby on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:40PM (#34003735)
every celebrity is stalked by paparazzi btw, imo the job should be illegal
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jfoster on Thursday December 15, 2022 @05:47AM (#33997648)
Because those websites are not tools aimed toward targeting him specifically and tying his name to a particular airplane.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ssnistfajen on Thursday December 15, 2022 @02:40PM (#34004563)
Elon tied his name to a particular airplane when he purchased said airplane.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by _djo_ on Thursday December 15, 2022 @06:59AM (#33998195)
I expect he will sue those next, forcing them out of business and taking away an extremely useful tool for both general interest and holding people, companies, and countries accountable.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ssnistfajen on Thursday December 15, 2022 @02:40PM (#34004549)
I really don't see how he has a valid case against them as ADS-B data have been public for a long time. An expensive case with very slim chances of winning. Elon is literally scope creep personified. Several of his companies are at crucial stages of management yet this is what he chooses to spend time and energy on (or perhaps that's intentional?),.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by _djo_ on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:19PM (#34005108)
Doesn’t need one. Even with SLAPP laws he can make life difficult enough for these sites, none of which are huge with substantial resources, to force many or most to give up and create a serious chilling effect.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jacquesm on Thursday December 15, 2022 @05:17PM (#34006597)
He'd have to do this all over the world, good luck with that.