Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by pgodzin on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:36PM
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Musk disagreed with you until today, he explicitly said that he would be leaving this exact account up because he believed in free speech even when it was about his location.
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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by theteapot on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:48PM
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Yes I know. He changed his mind I guess. He should admit he was wrong and clarify that tweet.
What about all the other things he's wrong about that he just hasn't been personally aggrieved by yet?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by ShredKazoo on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:59PM
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Can you be more specific about the things you feel he's wrong about?
(Reminder that when use of racial slurs increased on Twitter, Elon took action to stop it.)
Hmmm well, sounds like making someone personally aggrieve something is a pretty effective way to convince them not to like that thing. I dunno, maybe you should get on Twitter and try hurt Elon's feelings to convince him to censure more speech you don't like? Hope that helps.
Maybe if one of Elon Musk's children came out as trans he'd realize that trans people are just people and stop needlessly demonizing them with right-wing invective.
Oh, wait...
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by WalterBright on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:29AM
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It is possible for people to learn and change their minds.
I'm pretty sure that doxxing is not allowed on HN, Reddit, and other platforms, including the D language forums. I'm good with that.
I sincerely hope he learns and changes his mind.
Evidence so far is that he’s not principled enough to do so. “Free speech absolutism” just meant he didn’t give a fuck as long as he wasn’t the one at risk. I don’t think that will change, but I’d love to be wrong.
The problem is that he is only learning when it negatively affects him. Plenty of people have already learned many of these lessons, he just has no interest in listening to them.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by WalterBright on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:33AM
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People learning from experience is a good thing.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account
by bmlzootown on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:18AM
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If we, as a species, only learned from our own personal experiences, we'd still be dwelling in caves.
He is 50 years old.
It would be, if they then use that experience to modify their stance in a consistent manner but that is not what is happening here.
Sure. But if the only way Elon can learn why something is bad is through first-hand experience, will he act against speech that threatens minority groups he's not part of? What about those that are economically disadvantaged?
You can already see this lack of empathy at work in how he's trying to claw back severance he owes Twitter's ex-employees.
> It is possible for people to learn and change their minds.
In this case, it seems to be more about serving his self-interest. What do you think he might have learned beyond that?
You are clearly not paying attention since the account is still up in instagram and facebook:
https://www.instagram.com/elonmusksjet/?hl=en