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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by p1necone on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:22PM (#33995163)
"Free Speech Absolutism" is just another conservative boondoggle that they can endlessly talk about to attract voters.

Of course actually trying to put it in practice immediately falls apart, but that's not the point.

Nobody on the malicious side of the "malicious or stupid?" scale actually wants everyone to have unfettered freedom of speech (see: republican outrage at LGBTQ rights, people teaching/learning about systemic racism ('CRT'), drag queen story time, republican school districts banning books for some recent examples). They just want to be able to cry "muh free speech" to silence criticism of anything they say.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ShredKazoo on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @11:55PM (#33995375)
>people teaching/learning about systemic racism ('CRT')

This is less of a free speech issue, and more of a "what should government employees be paid to do" issue.

It's the difference between a gutter punk wearing a swastika, and a cop on duty wearing a swastika. The constitution prohibits the government from making a law regarding the gutter punk. But while the cop is on duty, they're an employee of the state, and it's perfectly reasonable for voters to say "we don't want to pay government employees to do that".

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by brookst on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:37AM (#33995676)
It’s a fair point. Systemic racism by police is a real thing, and the culture of silence and borderline extortionate tactics employed by police unions make it hard to change. Voters can say we don’t want to pay for that kind of institutional bad behavior. . . But all too often what we want doesn’t matter.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by pjc50 on Thursday December 15, 2022 @04:34AM (#33997190)
Yeah, cops on duty wear the Punisher symbol and carry challenge coins to signify their membership of fascist organisations instead.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by theteapot on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:20AM (#33995554)
"Free Speech Absolutism" is just another liberal boondoggle that they can endlessly smear their opponents with to attract voters.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by IntelMiner on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:14AM (#33996615)
Damn you really "owned the libs" with that 180
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by theteapot on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:41AM (#33996807)
You assume I'm a conservative trying to "own" someone the second I say something you don't like. I was just trying to demonstrate how vacuous, lazy and generic the original statement was that it can be turned on it's head while maintaining the same level of impactfulness and truth.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by IntelMiner on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:42AM (#33996817)
Except it requires an implicit assumption that "both sides" are equally flawed
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by theteapot on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:48AM (#33996860)
Yeah ...
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by theteapot on Thursday December 15, 2022 @03:36AM (#33996775)
Cheers. I'll sleep well tonight.