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Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by bb88 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:51PM (#33993364)
Yeah... if he really cared about anyone else's personal safety other than his own, he wouldn't have fired the twitter safety team, and then not said anything about a former twitter executive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/12/musk-tw...

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jacquesm on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @07:56PM (#33993414)
Elon mostly cares about Elon and the rest of the world are cardboard NPCs to him as far as I'm interpreting all of his actions for the last two months.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by cagenut on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:35PM (#33993835)
you typo'd decades

its just more clear to more remote/casual observers the last two months

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jacquesm on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:38PM (#33993859)
Fair.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by smcl on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:14PM (#33993606)
I don’t even think it was particularly about his personal safety. So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him?

I genuinely think he just found it irritating that someone was trying to make him look bad. I don’t blame him, I’d probably feel the same way. But then I haven’t bought a social media platform and loudly and repeatedly proclaimed that I am a free-speech absolutist.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by dragontamer on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:22PM (#33993701)
This is all public info from the FAA.

Unless Elon plans to ban the FAA from doing its job, people will know where Elon Musk's airplane is at all times.

Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing.

The paparazzi have been using these things to follow celebrities since forever. It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by smcl on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:42PM (#33993892)
Well that’s the other thing - banning the account on Twitter doesn’t make this go away. It just means people will follow them on FB or just use flightradar24 instead.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ChrisMarshallNY on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:55PM (#33994035)
Paging Ms. Streisand.

Ms. Barbra Streisand, on the white courtesy phone...

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by polygamous_bat on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:40PM (#33993876)
> It's an exorcise in ignorance to ignore the nature of FAA regulations / airplane tracking.

It may be more of an exercise of Elon flexing his $44B investment over the heaters and the poor people: by this point he knows that anyone even slightly left of center is not going to love him, so he's full on embracing the far/alt right crowd by "owning the libs". "Free speech" is lip service at max that some people fell for hook, line, and sinker.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by SXX on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:39PM (#33993863)
Actually it's not even information from FAA since ADS-B Exchange use information gathered by private individuals.

AFAIK all you need to gather ADS-B information for your own location is Android Phone, $30 USB dongle and some Antena.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by ravel-bar-foo on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:35AM (#33995663)
That will only let you know when the plane is overhead, and costs 30 USD more than Twitter.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by squarefoot on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:44PM (#33993914)
Exactly. A thread on Twitter about his Jets wouldn't touch his personal safety since the data is public, but it would attract more among the people who don't like him, therefore he would be giving exposure to discussions against his public image.

He has all rights to ban whoever he wishes since he owns the platform, but common sense should suggest him to stop talking about free speech since he's in no position to lecture anyone on the matter.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Eduard on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:28PM (#33994785)
> He has all rights to ban whoever he wishes since he owns the platform.

I'm sure stuff like antidiscrimination law etc. in several jurisdictions would make such behavior illegal.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by theonething on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:18AM (#33995546)
> Banning a silly Twitter account that copy/pastes data from the FAA won't change a thing.

Of course it does.

When you make something easier to do, the effect is it increases the chance of people doing it.

If your contact information is listed in a telephone book, it is publicly accessible information. Anyone can look that up. But who's going to do that? (to prank call you for example). But if some posts your info to a twitter account that reaches millions, chances are someone's going to call you. Why? Because popped up in millions of peoples' twitter feeds. And since it's so low effort, one or more people with nothing better to do will call.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by red_trumpet on Thursday December 15, 2022 @01:58AM (#33996202)
That might be true for most instances of "you", but if you are Elon Musk, people will find your phone number in the telephone book anyway.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Geee on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:49PM (#33993971)
His son X got threatened. Someone blocked the car and jumped on the hood. That's why they made this rule so suddenly.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by browserman on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:27PM (#33994306)
Definitely believe this self-justifying story made up on the spot by a notoriously inveterate liar.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Geee on Thursday December 15, 2022 @12:57AM (#33995819)
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by toofy on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:48PM (#33994483)
ok, understandable. so he understands posts can potentially impact safety in the real world.

so why does he actively mock some people or groups and make them seem unreasonable when they ask for twitter to help with their safety?

do only billionaires get help from twitter now?

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by bcrosby95 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:48PM (#33994964)
Because we're all just extras in Elon's life story. Why should he care when the token black guy gets eaten by a shark?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by bb88 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:57PM (#33994565)
So people were tweeting real time location of Elon's son? Or just Elon's jet?

People get threatened by random weirdos all the time.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by Eduard on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:31PM (#33994804)
... imagine all those crazy Elon stalkers base-jumping on his flying plane's roof!
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by bb88 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:04PM (#33994626)
> So someone gets a notification he has landed in Miami - are they going to race to the airport, hop the fence, run to his plane and confront him?

Even if congress shutdown ADS-B receiving or encrypting it somehow, people would just get out the long range camera lenses and take pictures of the tail numbers as the planes land and report it on a web site.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jacquesm on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @10:29PM (#33994788)
ADS-B is used all over the world, the trend is actually in the opposite direction: more and more airspace requires the use of ADS-B. Encrypting it would defeat the purpose of allowing airplanes to see each other as well (ADS-B to some extent replaces radar).

Congress could presumably pass some law but it would have to be ICAO or some other global organization that would formalize the change. Updating the systems on all aircraft would take many years. The current roll-out has been in progress for more than a decade.

Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by trident5000 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:16PM (#33993634)
This is the team that did nothing about pedophilia on twitter right?
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by andirk on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:41PM (#33993880)
Not true. They censored that stupid H Biden lap top story _including in DMs which thus far had supposedly only been used for underage illicit material_.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by jacquesm on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:29PM (#33993777)
That never happened. It's incredible how many people will just lap up what someone fantasizes over breakfast.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by SketchySeaBeast on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @08:47PM (#33993956)
These are repeated so often it's mind-boggling. Somehow we're supposed to believe that 1) The team before did nothing, and 2) That the new team, which is not team at all and possibly doesn't even exist, IS doing something? How do either of those make sense? But it's acceptable to so many people because pedophilia is the new Satanic Panic.
Re:Twitter restored ElonJet account by bb88 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @09:51PM (#33994502)
Step 1: Say a falsehood

Step 2: Repeat Step 1 for a long time

Step 3: Enough people believe it it's true.

When the twitter obituary is written, people will say this was the death knell.