My job has a lot of little customers with little projects and some older ones were made with jquery and we keep on keeping on. Why not? Also if we have to make similar projects we branch from older ones. So some of our current development uses jquery which raises some eyebrows but nothing like using 95% battle hardened code than starting fresh because…

Why not components from a React library like Material UI?

jQuery UI is "in a maintenance state" and "older long-standing bugs may not get fixed" I'm afraid

https://blog.jqueryui.com/2022/07/jquery-ui-1-13-2-released/

Why? Material's dead, adding React is adding a massive amount of bloat and build steps.

You need to have a reason to pay the price of React. Otherwise you're just being a sheep.

I say this using React and Material UI in a present project, from my perspective development for what is a pretty simple form UI is massively slowed down by using them.

Could have knocked out the whole site on my own in 1/2 the time using the 'old' stuff.

But now we've got a lovely loading spinner while it downloads everything it needs piecemeal and a bunch of basic browser functionality is broken, we've got 10x the amount of code, have to deal with a whole extra API layer and it's a nightmare to debug sitting there watching network calls instead of being able to step through the code in a proper debugger, brilliant stuff.

Completely worth it for that one datepicker we have.

Is Material dead? What replaced it?

In my clients company they usually even implement admin crud UI as api + React and it takes them so much longer than just whipping up some forms in Rails. They just do this as a default state of doing things not because they actually need an extra api for anything.

> date pickers

<input type="date"> is too rough I'm guessing? I'm not exactly sure where it falls short personally.

I really dislike how most desktop browsers display them. Plus you can't easily do things like "display start date while selecting end date".

There’s a million edge cases for dates that make it hard to use the bare-metal tools.

I rather like jQuery as it just patches over so much of the DOM API, which offends my sensibilities of what a "good API" should look like. I don't think the jQuery API is perfect, but it's a lot better.

But I never really liked jQuery UI, either as a user or developer. As a user, the whole "desktop semantics in your browser" is one of those things that was worth trying 15 years ago, but it mostly never really worked all that well, and pretty much everyone has dropped it.

As a developer I feel jQuery UI is too complex for what it does, partly because of the above.

At any rate, jQuery and jQuery UI are two entirely different projects.

Josh Comeau and the jQ team should sit down together and create a state of the art, kickass UI component library with nifty buttons and similar cool ui elements.

I don't use much jQuery any more but I thought it papered over a few bugs in browser bugs (I vaguely recall jQuery having to work around a DOM selector bug in mobile Safari in the last seven or so years).