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Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by hajile on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:22PM (#33988695)
Doxxing someone's location != "free speech" by most people's definitions.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mike_d on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:35PM (#33988923)
When you are using the public airspace, airwaves, or waterways there is an obligation to identify yourself to others.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by hajile on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:05PM (#33989500)
When you use public roads, why shouldn't I be able to track everywhere you go and tell the world exactly where you are?
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by bestcoder69 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:55PM (#33990417)
You can... who's stopping you?
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by monetus on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:11PM (#33990626)
Yeah, it costs money but you can buy someone's location data in real time.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by to11mtm on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:40PM (#33991749)
Because it's not an airspace where speed/visibility are important for a variety of reasons... FBOW moreso post 9-11
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by slowhand09 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:47PM (#33990299)
Evidently not. I live on the Chesapeake Bay. I see many Coast Guard and Navy vessels regularly that are not broadcasting AIS signals used for the safety of vessels nearby. Yet others do. I also see many military aircraft not broadcasting ADS-B, yet many are.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by mike_d on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @05:30PM (#33991607)
The vast majority of military ships and aircraft operating domestically have collision avoidance (ADSB/AIS out) turned on. When conducting sensitive operations they can turn it off, but must be in direct communications with the appropriate controlling authority and almost always have a primary radar system active.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by lxgr on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:36PM (#33988933)
Unfortunately, "most people's definition" does not factor in at all when Elon is claiming to only be upholding the law. It is my understanding that "doxxing" is not only largely legal in the U.S., it is in fact common practice for various administrative databases to be published unredacted by default.

Whether the law adequately protects people's privacy is a different conversation (worth having in my opinion!), and so is whether or not public or private non-government entities should step up instead and provide that additional protection.

With steps like this, he just clearly shows that he either never was all that serious about that claim, or that he has quickly learned why content moderation isn't as easy as "upholding the law and nothing but the law", especially in the U.S.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by hajile on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:41PM (#33989019)
Has Musk ever said that he supports doxxing individuals?

Court cases or unredacted mass data dumps are far different than data dumps targeting very specific individuals -- usually with the intent of enabling direct harm.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by bestcoder69 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:55PM (#33990406)
Even more hypocritically than that, he said he supported the ElonJet account remaining online.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by someNameIG on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:02PM (#33990506)
> targeting very specific individuals -- usually with the intent of enabling direct harm.

Like Musk has done with previous Twitter employees? There was reports Roth was threatened at had lot leave his house for safety reasons.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by pas on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:36PM (#33988934)
free speech absolutism is exactly what Elon was parroting though

and if he were to acknowledge that he has changed his mind it would be okay-ish, but his whole process is to cause maximum amount of cringe, outcry, gossip/scandals, and so on, because this is what resonates with his personality anyway. so far it led him to the top of that particular game .. so it's unlikely he'll change.

Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by ssnistfajen on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:38PM (#33990166)
The location is for the private aircraft owned by Elon Musk, not Elon Musk himself. He could stuff a dummy on the aircraft and have it flown across the country and the tracking account would not provide any information that is different. This is not doxxing because whether Elon Musk was aboard the aircraft was never implied.
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by runarberg on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @06:58PM (#33992788)
He is also free to travel with other means, he can buy ticket in a commercial airplane, he can drive, take the bus, etc. Non of which are trackable with public data (unless he himself broadcasts the fight number of the commercial airplane he’s taking).
Re:ElonJet Is Now Suspended by datagram on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:09PM (#33990596)
Yeah, I don't think this account deserved to exist either. Really, it was just a bonehead move by Musk to call this account out specifically as one that he wouldn't ban.