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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by babelfish on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:14PM (#33988546)
What does 'win' mean here? It seems like being able to pass on the costs of fleet management, insurance, gas, parking/storage, etc to drivers (the way taxis/ride sharing apps currently do) will always be cheaper than maintaining it yourself, even if you save on the driver fees.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by kibwen on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:17PM (#33988598)
At the rate things are going right now, Waymo will win when Tesla throws in the towel and licenses its tech in order to finally deliver on full self-driving.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by moonchrome on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:24PM (#33988729)
Tesla already sold self driving for years - waymo uses way more sensors than a camera from what I can tell - not only would that bump unit cost they would probably have to upgrade previous customers due to their marketing.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by someotherperson on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:37PM (#33988964)
> not only would that bump unit cost they would probably have to upgrade previous customers due to their marketing.

Only if they don't change they name. They can call it an upgraded RealDrive™ QuantumSense™ feature that no longer requires having your hands on the wheel.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by misiti3780 on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:13PM (#33989685)
and fuck with the aerodynamics - causing drag on the cars, decreasing range.

LIDR isnt an option.

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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by cycomanic on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:51PM (#33990361)
That highly depends on the lidar system. All players are working a lot on minaturizing LIDAR systems and they fundamentally don't have to be as big as the waymo systems.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by mahkeiro on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:36PM (#33988944)
They are also Chinese solutions in that space like Baidu Apollo.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by hobofan on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @03:33PM (#33990092)
How things are going right now, I'd be surprised if anyone will be willing to license Tesla's tech.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by paxys on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:07PM (#33990559)
This would imply that Uber/Lyft drivers on average are losing money by being on the service, which is obviously not the case. Having a large fleet of driverless taxis, even if you have to maintain them yourself, will be a very profitable business. There are other potential revenue sources as well, like licensing the tech to car manufacturers.
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Re:Waymo's collision avoidance testing by just-ok on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:19PM (#33990744)
> obviously not the case

This is a strong claim. I thought there was a decent body of evidence that suggested most drivers make much less money than they think, when you take depreciation/repairs/etc. into account?

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