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Re:After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used t... by GuB-42 on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @08:32PM (#33978876)
I think being against feminism and proud to be heterosexual are perfectly acceptable, if controversial opinions. Being insulting about it is not.

Believing in well debunked conspiracy theories is your right, but doing so definitely puts you in the "weirdo" category.

Re:After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used t... by deanCommie on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:14AM (#33980887)
Saying that feminism might be corrupted by grifters who do not actually seek equality between the genders would be controversial, but acceptable.

Saying that homosexual pride was important at the start, but now in most places gay people have the identical rights to straight people, and therefore gay pride is no more meaningful than straight pride would be controversial, but acceptable.

Missing either context by saying you're against feminism ("So you do NOT support equality between genders?") or that straight pride is the same as gay pride ("You do understand that 'pride' in this context is a rebellion against 'SHAME'. People are saying they refuse to be ASHAMED of being gay. Noone has ever told a straight person they should be ashamed of being straight") is not acceptable.

It is bigotry. There are left-wing bigots and right-wing bigots. And there are right wingers who are not bigots.

But there are definitely correlations and trends between bigotry and political beliefs...

Re:After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used t... by DonHopkins on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @04:11AM (#33981487)
We obviously have different definitions of "acceptable".

A few grifters do not cancel out all women's rights to equality.

Calling out racism when you see it, and when somebody shows you they're racist, as Notch unquestionably did, is acceptable.

Keeping your mouth shut and not saying anything isn't acceptable, and makes you a part of it.

Tolerating and normalizing racism is not acceptable.

And your claim that "gay people have the identical rights to straight people" is absolute mendacious bullshit and you know it, especially in light of the fact that so many people in the US are campaigning and bullying and legislating so strongly against it, and actually murdering gay people in their safe spaces.

It doesn't matter that they may technically finally have hard won and constantly embattled "identical rights", if they're dead.

I am sure you are fully aware of the numerous recent mass shootings targeting gay people, the thugs threatening drag shows, the terrorists shooting out power substations, and of the members of congress, former presidents, and presidential candidates who regularly incite that violence, so you definitely know you're lying about that.

So why do you lie and pretend to be ignorant, if you're not an active part of the problem?

Just remember: you're defending an unhinged billionaire Q-Anon promoting weirdo who publicly attacked and called a female game developer a "cunt", and people opposed to right wing neo-Nazi homophobic trolls "complete fucking cunts who deserve to be shot".

Notch was LITERALLY INCITING VIOLENCE, by any definition of the term, and you're defending him, after so many of those people he called "complete fucking cunts who deserve to be shot" were shot down in cold blood, just like he insisted.

Him saying that and you defending his hate speech is not just "weird", it's sociopathic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_pride

>Support for straight pride events is often based on religious objections to homosexuality.[16][32] Groups such as the White Aryan Resistance and Ku Klux Klan have also tried to oppose "gay pride" by stressing straight pride.[33]

[33] White Boys to Terrorist Men: Target Recruitment of Nazi Skinheads https://studysites.sagepub.com/martin3study/articles/Blazak....

https://thinkprogress.org/organizers-behind-boston-straight-...

>The organizers behind Boston’s Straight Pride Parade should concern you. Some of the organizers are close to neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.

Re:After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used t... by deanCommie on Wednesday December 14, 2022 @02:53PM (#33989242)
You're arguing with the wrong person - you should reply to OP.

I completely agree with you. Notch is indefensible.

My argument was that there MIGHT be an acceptable way to have a conversation about what grifters are doing to feminism (without abandoning the whole concept)

Or there MIGHT be an acceptable way to have a conversation about whether gay pride should evolve as society evolves.

But not by saying you're against feminism, or by saying you're against gay pride without qualifications.