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Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by jrochkind1 on Monday December 12, 2022 @09:08PM (#33963744)
They expect that none of your devices will ever die? This makes no sense.
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by crooked-v on Monday December 12, 2022 @09:16PM (#33963799)
It makes plenty of sense to Google: engineer for the 98% use case and the remaining 2% should just go away and stop wasting their time.
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by stubish on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:15PM (#33964288)
100% of devices will fail, eventually. It is kicking the can down the road.
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by TeMPOraL on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:34PM (#33964430)
They're banking on you upgrading your device before it dies, as opposed to e.g. accidentally dropping it onto pavement and cracking the screen.

Had that happen to me, I was saved by still having the backup codes + having some unholy Tasker + Pebble automations that let me operate the phone without display - enough to launch AirDroid, use it as remote display/input to enable ADB over WiFi, and then finally use scrscpy over ADB as a remote display/input that doesn't blank out on security screens and in Google Authenticator. Only at this point I was able to transfer all the other TOTP entries in Authenticator to the new device.

Lesson learned: 2FA with TOTP is a responsibility to be taken seriously, despite what security professionals would make you believe.

Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by cozzyd on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @01:24AM (#33965497)
Enable debugging on your phone preemptively, then you can remote display over USB :).
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by aledalgrande on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:35PM (#33964440)
Doesn't matter, if the current people can get promoted. Problem is for future Googlers </sarcasm>
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by NaturalPhallacy on Monday December 12, 2022 @10:18PM (#33964314)
Hey it worked for the UNIX epoch, till those guys retired.
Re:Ask HN: If I get locked out of everything, please try to ... by nicbou on Tuesday December 13, 2022 @04:37AM (#33966565)
Many things are designed by roughly the same kind of people in roughly the same area. They are blind to a lot of use cases. Besides, it's a government's mandate to cover edge cases. Businesses only do it when compelled.