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Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by Havoc on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:09AM (#33943311)
This seems incredibly ominous when transferred to social media. Large parts of the internet rely on the pseudo anonymity of it quite heavily - see reddit etc.
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by s3000 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:21AM (#33943429)
For those you haven't seen it, from 2 weeks ago:

Show HN: Using stylometry to find HN users with alternate accounts [1]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33755016

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by dewey on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:13AM (#33943346)
Basic opsec principles always say that if you want to stay anonymous you have to switch the way you are writing (by adopting a differnet personality, running it through translation apps etc.).

If someone would want to stay anonymous the unmasking % would probably be lower. The threat-model of the chess players doesn't include that they have to stay anonymous and need to switch up their way of playing.

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by greggarious on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:47AM (#33944785)
I’m fond of occasionally throwing in some ou s and references to cities other than Ontario to throw folks off, but it’s hard to pull off long term
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by jojo259 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:28PM (#33949294)
Just realized the fact I type like an American online (I'm British) would confuse someone for a little bit if they tried to de-anonymize me... (although they probably wouldn't struggle anyway)
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by Havoc on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:12PM (#33947579)
>>switch the way you are writing

I'd be very surprised if that actually works. Stuff like vocabulary can't exactly be turned off at will

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by dewey on Sunday December 11, 2022 @06:06PM (#33948616)
It probably got a lot easier with ChatGPT now.
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by wussboy on Sunday December 11, 2022 @11:37AM (#33944657)
I'm not convinced that, for 99.9% of use cases, anonymity is a feature. I think it's far more likely that the easy anonymity that has been the default for much of the existence of the Internet has harmed society.

I get downvoted whenever I say this, but anonymous speech is only allowed by recent technology and has never been a part of our ancestral environment.

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by hairofadog on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:35PM (#33947816)
I’m not downvoting, but I think the concept of anonymous speech goes way way back to the origins of writing, doesn’t it? The change in recent years is that it’s extra hard to stay anonymous, what with the surveillance economy?
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by wussboy on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:43PM (#33947877)
Perhaps. But if you consider:

1. The cost of printing/transcribing something 2. Literacy rates 3. Constraints tied to physical distribution

...the reach of that potentially "anonymous speech" was the tiniest fraction of what we experience today. And even then it wasn't necessarily anonymous, unless you just left books lying around?

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by hairofadog on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:55PM (#33947985)
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by wussboy on Sunday December 11, 2022 @05:47PM (#33948439)
I won't argue that it wasn't possible. But that link shows 20-40 books, and covers 3000 years of human culture. That's about one anonymous book per century. I think we need more anonymity than that. But I think the amount of anonymity we have now is disastrous to civil society.

Appreciate the link though. Thanks for engaging.

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by im3w1l on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:11PM (#33949129)
Well, with a rumor, the original source is obscured. So in a sense they are getting their info out there anonymously (to all but the first-hand confidantes).
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by pixl97 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @07:08PM (#33949101)
What are you calling recent? The printing press? Spartacus?

The reason you get down votes is its a relatively dangerous line of thought in itself that plays into the hands of authoritarians that would love to track every bit of information to an individual.

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by potatototoo99 on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:26PM (#33947716)
Freedom of speech is also a recent invention.
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by makeworld on Sunday December 11, 2022 @10:07AM (#33943782)
Perhaps anonymous social media (like 4chan, with its lack of usernames) will become more popular.
Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by LarryMullins on Sunday December 11, 2022 @01:20PM (#33945785)
Or less popular, because there is now a greater risk of your 4chan comments being associated with your other online identities.

There may be some additional safety in conforming to the local "memespeak" dialect, and not using that dialect elsewhere.

Re:AI unmasks anonymous chess players, posing privacy risks by kypro on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:48AM (#33943636)
Seems quite easy to solve this though. An AI could easily anonymise your text by rephasing sentences.