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Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by Waterluvian on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:27PM (#33939010)
That is an unoriginal pose. Which is why it seems ridiculous that a copyright would be based on pose. There’s still a lot of originality present.

I guess the issue is that the authorities need to feign some sort of objectivity and while a human can say “these are obvious imitations/reproductions” they might struggle to define a set of rules you could use to test every case.

Copyright continues to feel weird to me.

Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by moistly on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:37PM (#33939068)
I’ll agree that the pose isn’t original, but at the same time Jeff Dieschburg should be shamed forever for his blatant rip-off of her work. It’s the friggin The Office meme, “They’re both the same.” What an ass.
Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by Waterluvian on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:39PM (#33939092)
Indeed. It’s basically that highly offensive thing you see on TikTok where someone simply mirrors a video they steal.

And I think there is always plenty of room to discuss what’s legal and what’s right qs two separate things.

Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by SanjayMehta on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:45PM (#33939132)
Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by Waterluvian on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:50PM (#33939163)
I don’t understand a lot of these pieces. But I’ve also experienced tremendous emotion over something that I try to share with others who give the same kind of “uhh what?” response. So I accept that I’m probably not the audience.

That being said I think there’s probably a few things that happen sometimes:

1. Money laundering

2. Rich people buying status

3. Rich people figuring out what exactly to do with their money

4. like crypto and other things, it has value because a community has decided it has value. It doesn’t have to make any sense. It’s self-fulfilling.

Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by SanjayMehta on Saturday December 10, 2022 @08:58PM (#33939231)
All art is highly subjective - "I know it when I see it."

I think what I want to say is that the world around art is weird to me.

As for money laundering, Jackson Pollock comes to mind.

https://medium.com/@MichaelMcBride/how-jackson-pollock-and-t...

And politicians receiving vast sums of money for their "art." Makes one go "hmmm."

https://www.indiatimes.com/culture/who-we-are/wtf-mamata-ban...

Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by missurunha on Sunday December 11, 2022 @06:30AM (#33942304)
I'd say the most important after the money laundry aspect is that people treat art as an investment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesbusinesscouncil/2022/09/2...

Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by userbinator on Sunday December 11, 2022 @04:17AM (#33941575)
In general, art is probably a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good
Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by camoufleur on Saturday December 10, 2022 @10:13PM (#33939684)
Think of it this way: props from the original Star Wars films fetch millions of dollars at auction. Most movie fans and even most Star Wars fans would never pay that much for a prop. But you can understand wanting to own part of a piece of history. Now, consider these paintings are props for a movie you haven't seen yet, a movie called 'the history of art'. Perhaps if these pieces had a significance to you beyond their visual appearance, it would make more sense why they could be so valuable (to a very small minority).
Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by dale_glass on Sunday December 11, 2022 @09:21AM (#33943437)
A lot of art is part of some sort of conversation that those in the know had, and so it makes sense to them, but those outside that scene have no idea.

What I think is particularly confusing about art is that in other disciplines, you pretty much never see such things exhibited to the public. Eg, take Perl poetry for instance:

    # The Cow
    #    by Ogden Nash
    #
    # The cow is of the bovine ilk;
    # One end is moo, the other, milk.
    #
    package cow;
    @ISA = qw(bovine);
    push @cow, 'moo';
    unshift @cow, 'milk';

Now imagine somebody framed that and hung it in a museum and normal people trying to understand what is this all about.
Re:Copyright denied because the model’s pose is not unique by UncleMeat on Sunday December 11, 2022 @10:49AM (#33944144)
"Particular art pieces sell for ridiculous prices because of the strange world of art investment" is a reasonable opinion to hold. But the article is just "wow, Rothko sure is shit."