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Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by lmarcos on Saturday December 10, 2022 @05:29AM (#33931483)
But what difference does it make? If I were a scammer I would:

- buy a domain for 20 USD/year and create the corresponding [email protected]

- do what the scammer did in the blog post but without grammatical errors (I could even use chatgpt for that) and alway using my custom email address

See. That's easy to fake. If people are willing to pay the scammers, then the grammar errors and proton emails do not matter

Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by stavros on Saturday December 10, 2022 @07:47AM (#33932151)
Because the real domain is already taken by the real company.
Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by jacurtis on Saturday December 10, 2022 @09:51AM (#33933070)
I almost hate to say this to not give scammers any ideas, but it seems pretty obvious to me that you can buy look-alike domains that most people wouldn't think too much about. For example, autonationusa.com, autonationcorp.com, autonation-corp.com, autonation-hq.com, internal-autonation.com hr-autonation.com, autonationrecruiting.com, autonation-hiring.com and so on, you get the idea.

There are even other TLDs you could play with that most non-tech people would think are legit. For example auto-nation.co or autonation.inc autonation.corporation. All of these would cost less than $20. I haven't checked these all for availability, but I suspect at least half the ones on this list are available, and even if they aren't you can play with different combinations to get something that is available. The purpose is only to fool people at first glance.

While most people on HN might know that internal-autonation.com does not actually mean its from autonation, I suspect it would still fool a lot of HN readers. Outside of tech workers, I think this technique would fool the vast majority of the population.

You could even buy a domain for something like new-fake-hrm-saas.com and make a fake website for a fake SaaS HRM/Recruiting tool. Then send all emails from that domain. If anyone asks, you can say that intial emails go through that SaaS tool until you have fully onboarded. This is something legit that actually happens in real life early on in the hiring process when they want all hiring correspondance to go through an HRM tool. Again, maybe a tech worker would be cautious of this technique, but most people would be none the wiser. This would allow you to maintain one domain for multiple scams so you could easily burn one if you get exposed. You could even do subdomains with it like autonation.fakehrm.com and salesforce.fakehrm.com and so on for each company you impersonate.

Again, this isn't to give people ideas. But this could be easily done for $20 a year and minimal effort. (The fake hrm saas site could be a template site, all real SaaS sites look the same anyway).

Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by notahacker on Saturday December 10, 2022 @09:57AM (#33933136)
Would work fine as lots of corporations genuinely do use multiple domains for email. But for scammers, every time someone realises they've been scammed their domain gets taken down and they lose email contact with a whole bunch of other victims in their pipeline at the same time...
Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by ChoGGi on Saturday December 10, 2022 @09:34AM (#33932935)
One look-alike letter in the domain is all you need.
Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by stavros on Saturday December 10, 2022 @09:38AM (#33932974)
I guess, but autonatlon.com kind of sticks out.
Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by jacurtis on Saturday December 10, 2022 @10:06AM (#33933214)
internal-autonation.com is available right now for $10. autonation.inc is also available. I could generate 100 more like this that would fool most of the American population. Tech workers might be smart enough to avoid them, but the average person wouldn't think twice about these.

For example imagine getting an email from [email protected]. Again, I know a tech worker who actually is likely to have purchased a domain might know what is happening here, but most Americans would think this is legit.

Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by brewdad on Saturday December 10, 2022 @02:27PM (#33935882)
I've received completely legit emails from Chase Bank that used URLs that, on first glance, had to be fake. I followed up using alternate channels and found out that it wasn't a scam just poorly executed "security".
Re:A fake job offer gone wrong by voakbasda on Sunday December 11, 2022 @12:01PM (#33944929)
Chase is indeed horrible about this kind of thing. Most of their messages look like spam or scams.