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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by vjulian on Friday December 09, 2022 @08:41AM (#33921101)
‘Rich’ is a relative term but my family might qualify as ‘old rich’ and do tend to distinguish from ‘new rich’. The terms are misnomers. People who might be labelled ‘new rich’ or ‘nouveau riche’ do not have the qualities of tastes, behaviours, or values that are handed down and refined over many generations. It is a relatively easy-to-observe distinction.

I am not saying it’s an important distinction to me.

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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by thrwwmbkpr on Friday December 09, 2022 @10:45AM (#33922546)
This makes sense, and sounds reasonable. I think people are getting hung up on 'qualities of tastes', believing (I assume) it is a value judgement. I read it as 'characteristics'.

As a result of proximity over time, the 'old rich' have developed unique cultural habits that are easily recognized as different to 'new rich'. Every group does this. Sure, there is good and bad to it, but it's a natural and expected outcome.

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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by JoeAltmaier on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:18AM (#33921431)
It's a term made up to embarrass newcomers. Cultural differences are not right or wrong, they just are.

To say someone has the wrong 'qualities of tastes, behaviors or values' is arrogance. Everybody's culture is handed down, that's another weasel-phrase that just disguises bigotry.

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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by Veen on Friday December 09, 2022 @10:22AM (#33922207)
That's exactly what a parvenu would say. Not the done thing, old chap. Too chippy. You won't be invited to the best parties with that attitude.
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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by B1FF_PSUVM on Friday December 09, 2022 @01:34PM (#33924827)
Bless his heart, poor fellow, I'm sure he means well. Perhaps he's not really a bolshevik.

But anyway ...

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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by vjulian on Friday December 09, 2022 @10:56AM (#33922701)
It’s a poor term but one that simply refers to observable differences. It is unfortunate that there may be bigory or judgements accorded. I am inclined to suppose that those people are in the minority.
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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by nonethewiser on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:12AM (#33921381)
> People who might be labelled ‘new rich’ or ‘nouveau riche’ do not have the qualities of tastes, behaviours, or values that are handed down and refined over many generations

Such as? 4 dinner forks?

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Re:What it's like to live in Monaco by andsoitis on Friday December 09, 2022 @09:42AM (#33921663)
> Such as? 4 dinner forks?

It is not about what you do have and what you do, but rather what you don’t do that distinguishes.

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