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Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by dvh on Thursday December 08, 2022 @01:48PM (#33911521)
It gives answer that vaguely look like answer should look like but all the important details are wrong.

> A solar eclipse is a partial eclipse of the Sun caused by a solar coronal mass ejection . A solar coronal mass ejection occurs when Earth passes directly in front of the sun.

> You will also need to calculate number of seconds it takes for earth to rotate around the sun which is calculated as Math.PI * 2 / 60

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by tobr on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:21PM (#33911971)
> how do i mix two colors (hexadecimal rgb string) in js

> ANSWER

> To mix two colors in JavaScript, you can use the color-mix property. This property takes three parameters: the colorspace, the color to be mixed, and the percentage of that color to mix. For example, to mix the colors #FFFFFF and #8FBC8, you would use the following code:

> let newColor = document.createElement;

> // Outputs: #8FBC8

This is all just wrong from beginning to end. It seems to be confusing JS and CSS, too.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by nigamanth on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:28PM (#33917447)
I mean with all the data on the internet it's hard to differentiate between what's right and wrong. Perhaps your question can also be refined to:

"How do I mix two colors in vanilla JavaScript?" This doesn't confuse rgb string and it still asks the same question.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by tobr on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:57AM (#33918048)
Ok, but if I use this to ask about something I genuinely need help with, how am I supposed to know that? And I don’t really think the problem is that it can’t differentiate between sources that are right and wrong. The sources are perfectly fine. It’s the summary that is bananas.
Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by dannywarner on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:31PM (#33912117)
They did a Launch HN recently: Launch HN: Hello (YC S22) – A search engine for developers'[1]

Nothing much has changed since. So they appear to be trying to cash in on the interest in ChatGPT.

Interesting they didn't include that they are backed by Y Combinator in the recent S23 cohort. Is being backed by YC a negative for startups here now?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32003215

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by rushingcreek on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:33PM (#33912144)
The models have gotten significantly better since our Launch HN. It might as well be a different product now from a UX point of view.
Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by acqq on Thursday December 08, 2022 @03:24PM (#33912843)
Yes, the answer I got was nonsensical too:

> what is the diameter of the sun in sun radii

> ANSWER

> The diameter of the sun in solar radii is 1,392,000 km. This is calculated by taking the mean radius of the sun, which is 432,450 miles , and multiplying it by the circumference of the sun, which is 2,715,396 miles .

The correct answer is, of course: 2.

BTW: Google is also confused, but not in the same way, returning:

2.0018 R(sun)

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by rushingcreek on Thursday December 08, 2022 @03:31PM (#33912942)
Doing unit conversions or general math is a known weak spot. I believe that 1,392,000 km is the correct diameter of the sun -- it just doesn't know how to convert those units.
Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by acqq on Thursday December 08, 2022 @03:43PM (#33913091)
No, it's exactly

2 * 695700 = 1391400

based on the most recent measurement from 2015:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radius

Any other value found on the web is based on some older estimate or some arbitrary approximation.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by shhsshs on Thursday December 08, 2022 @04:58PM (#33914197)
The radius of the sun is not exactly 695,700 km. The radius of the sun is approximately 695,700 km.

The nominal solar radius, which is and is intended to be an approximation, is defined to be exactly 695,700 km.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by aix1 on Friday December 09, 2022 @02:48AM (#33918772)
what is the path integral of a european swallow

ANSWER The path integral of a European swallow is the sum, or functional integral, over an infinity of quantum-mechanically possible trajectories to compute a quantum amplitude. This formulation has proven crucial to the understanding of how birds fly and migrate. For example, during migration, barn swallows cover 200 miles a day at speeds of 17-22 miles per hour, with a maximum flight speed of 35 mph. In their wintering areas, they feed in small flocks which join together to form roosting flocks of thousands of birds.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by trompetenaccoun on Thursday December 08, 2022 @03:54PM (#33913246)
Well, that's what these language models do in a nutshell. If you think social media and blogs are bad in terms of misinformation, this is the same thing rehashed by a machine that can not actually think or judge for itself (which to be fair, is arguably almost on a level already with how some humans interact with information they consume online).

I asked some controversial questions and the answers are interesting to say the least. The source is often reddit, random sites that are probably the top search engine result or some yellow press outlet.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by nicbou on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:36AM (#33917912)
This is something that makes me a bit uneasy as someone who lives from a blog.

I make the phone calls to gather and synthesise information that previously wasn't online. I don't like the idea of AI just paraphrasing my work without credit, and getting it wrong to top things off. It's bad enough when Google and lazy SEO copywriters do it. I do the work, they get the value.

I feel the same as a programmer (though I'm no longer a professional one). I didn't release all that open source code to train a for-profit AI.

I'd be even more upset if an AI was used to immitate my artwork and deny me the recognition. Thankfully I'm not that skilled.

I've seen convincing counter arguments to this, but I can't help feeling wronged by it. I feel like it enables a few to rob many of the fruits of their labour at an unprecedented scale.

Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by dicknuckle on Friday December 09, 2022 @03:27PM (#33926083)
I'd rather not be attributed if it's getting things wrong.
Re:Show HN: Web search using a ChatGPT-like model that can c... by katsura on Thursday December 08, 2022 @07:18PM (#33915764)
To the "Why did Elon Musk buy Twitter" question it says things like:

"Additionally, he was offered a high enough price by the shareholders that they were willing to sell their shares to him."

or:

"He acquired Twitter in April 2016 for $44 billion."