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Re:Apple kills plans to scan for CSAM in iCloud by syrrim on Thursday December 08, 2022 @10:42AM (#33909041)
Apple's proposed system did scanning on your device, whereas google's system does scanning in the cloud. That is the distinction. A person's own hardware shouldn't be used to report them to the police. You cannot interpret technology like this in terms of what it is applied to today, because its use will be broadened in the future.
Re:Apple kills plans to scan for CSAM in iCloud by GeekyBear on Thursday December 08, 2022 @10:55AM (#33909256)
> Apple's proposed system did scanning on your device, whereas google's system does scanning in the cloud. That is the distinction.

No, the distinction is that Apple's proposed system only scanned photos you uploaded to publicly accessible iCloud albums and did so in a way that not even they had access to the results until you crossed the "99 images that match known kiddie porn" threshold. Even then, they had an actual human being review the situation to make sure there weren't 99 false positives on a single account before calling the police.

There was absolutely no possibility of calling the police for a single false positive, which is what Google is already doing today.

Re:Apple kills plans to scan for CSAM in iCloud by syrrim on Thursday December 08, 2022 @12:28PM (#33910566)
False positives are inherent to the justice system. While unfortunate, they do not cross any lines or send us down any slippery slopes. They are priced in. Thus, "what about google" is a mere "what-about-ism". People are ocassionally falsely accused, charged, and even convicted of crimes. That is not what is under discussion here.
Re:Apple kills plans to scan for CSAM in iCloud by GeekyBear on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:27PM (#33912066)
> False positives are inherent to the justice system

This is in no way an excuse for Google calling the police to report child abuse because their algorithm made a bad call, and Google doesn't want to hire human beings who can intervene when their algorithms very frequently screw up.

Re:Apple kills plans to scan for CSAM in iCloud by syrrim on Thursday December 08, 2022 @02:53PM (#33912403)
Google is also bad. We are agreed on that.