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Re:What comes up when you flush by sneak on Thursday December 08, 2022 @07:36AM (#33907201)
Public/industrial/commercial toilets in the US generally do not have lids, only seats.

They also seem to flush a lot more violently than residential toilets, relevant to the issue raised by TFA.

It is strange to me that there are two parallel systems. I imagine the commercial ones require less maintenance but are more expensive?

Re:What comes up when you flush by eru on Thursday December 08, 2022 @08:13AM (#33907522)
> It is strange to me that there are two parallel systems. I imagine the commercial ones require less maintenance but are more expensive?

There's a lot more laws and regulations for the 'commercial' toilets. Eg the U-shaped open seat is mandatory for public toilets in many places in the US. It's not a choice they make for commercial considerations.

Btw, 'commercial' toilet is a bit of a misnomer: it's against the law to run a toilet business in most of the US. (Specifically paid toilets are outlawed.)

Re:What comes up when you flush by Oxidation on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:38AM (#33908286)
It's fascinating to me how often things get codified into law or standards[1], but the reasoning behind it becomes legend.

Apparently the u-shape is intended to allow women to wipe without touching the seat, and maybe also reduce male contact with the front. But you have to take a bunch of people's word (which I suspect to be guesses) for that.

[1] and I've been on standards committees where people are trying to imagine what the previous generation were trying to say, since standards usually only tell you what, and are short on the why.

Re:What comes up when you flush by bombcar on Thursday December 08, 2022 @09:27AM (#33908189)
Where is the "commercial toilets must have U-shaped seats" law found?

Most "commercial toilets" are designed to be easy to clean and run off of "mains" pressure - commercial buildings have enough flow that they can flush directly without storing a buffer in a tank. And many commercial businesses have normal "home" toilets, at least around here.

Re:What comes up when you flush by eru on Friday December 09, 2022 @12:01AM (#33917653)
A tiny bit of Googling gives https://www.rd.com/article/public-toilet-seat-u-shape/ gives:

> This is an open-front toilet seat, and thanks to the American Standard National Plumbing Code, it’s the go-to for most public restrooms. This code was created in 1955 and further cemented by the Uniform Plumbing Code in 1973 by the International Association of Plumbing and Mechanical Officials (IAPMO).

You can follow the links in the article I linked, or do a bit more Googling.

It's not a single uniform law, but a code that then got (and gets) adopted by lots of localities using different legal mechanisms. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Plumbing_Code