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Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by hdheiehdfhfuf on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:19PM (#33901158)
Do Not Run An Exit Node!

very few people have legitimate uses for an exit node. And it is a security nigthmare for everyone (you owning their crimes, them being at your MiTM attacks mercy, etc)

But Do Run A Tor Node!

everyone should join tor and it should become the main net, with only tor traffic.

Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by hnarn on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:55PM (#33901554)
> But Do Run A Tor Node!

Just a word of caution, while running a non-exit node is obviously safer from a legal point of view, the entire list of active tor nodes isn’t secret, and there are enough people in the world that do not understand how tor works that the chance is non-zero that you’ll still end up on a block list somewhere for simply being a “tor node”, even though you never let any of the tor traffic out on the Internet.

I know for a fact this can happen because it happened to me.

Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by flatiron on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:06PM (#33901684)
Happened to me too. Worked from home and it showed up I was logging in via Tor. They were not pleased.
Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by supertrope on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:24PM (#33901840)
Google shows anti-bot challenges if you run a non-exit relay.
Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by charcircuit on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:38PM (#33901379)
An ISP doesn't own the crimes that an attacker sends through them.
Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by implements on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:49PM (#33901502)
Well, I’m going to burn some karma by agreeing with you.

Running an exit node is a bit like operating a no questions asked gun shop in downtown (some deprived city).

Sure, there’s perfectly legitimate reasons to own and therefore sell a gun to someone, but that particular shop will be in the business of facilitating crime - and that’s a bad thing and therefore not a moral occupation.

Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by JasonFruit on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:14PM (#33901763)
If you run an ISP, chances are 100% that people will use it to feed their pornography and gambling addictions. That ISP will be in the business of ruining lives. Does that make running an ISP am immoral occupation?
Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by data_maan on Thursday December 08, 2022 @01:11AM (#33904762)
> Running an exit node is a bit like operating a no questions asked gun shop in downtown (some deprived city).

It's not quite like that. For some use cases that could be a correct metaphore. But for others, it's more like running a self-defense class in a well respected neighborhood.

Re:Tor Browser 12.0 by Legogris on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:44PM (#33903031)
s/gun/phone card/