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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by scientism on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:37PM (#33899888)
They mine your data as long as it can be converted into a marketable product for them. The most recent example was this: https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/21/ios-privacy-concerns-deepen/

Maybe images/photos isn't something they want to expand at this moment in time but let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by behnamoh on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:44PM (#33899958)
They might mine your data BEFORE it leaves your device. Thanks to the new A chips, Apple can definitely do that.
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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by mejutoco on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:06PM (#33900239)
This. Technically the iphone can process images locally. Photos app shows what is in the picture (faces, pets, food) and can do ocr on text in screenshots and photos. This is a very real possibility to outsource the processing to your device.
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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by nonameiguess on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:28PM (#33900530)
The camera itself does software processing and you can't encrypt the light. It detects faces even before you click the shutter for capture. There is no way to keep the device itself from ever knowing what it was looking at. Something that sensitive is something you don't photograph.
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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by mejutoco on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:36PM (#33900637)
we agree I believe. I am saying that technically the device gets thst information on-device, and could send it. Idk if that is the case, but it is possible.

Edit:The ocr and face recognition on the iphone is definitely more advanced than usual, thanks to the custom hardware on device.

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Re:Apple introduces end-to-end encryption for backups by kaba0 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:50PM (#33901508)
I mean, if you can’t trust the very OS that handles your encrypted data, then you are lost either way, so that argument doesn’t make sense. It is similar security LARPing then hardware kill switches.
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