Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by turtledragonfly on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:03AM
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Your comment reminded me of an article about another massive manual-engineering feat: the F1 engines powering the Saturn V rocket. Just the amount of hand-welding alone is phenomenal.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the...
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by Sakos on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:16AM
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That article has such Asimov's Foundation vibes. Maybe it's just me. The amount of effort going into refurbishing old technology instead of designing something new reminds me of that decrepit old Empire that's reliant on technology designed and built thousands of years ago and all the knowledge being lost.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by Spooky23 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:44AM
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It’s weird for sure. The number of important things that people don’t understand is always surprising although it’s very common.
Early in my career I had an “Asimov moment” firsthand - I was an intern working on a project to instrument an industrial facility with better sensors, etc. The whole place was dependent on a 100 year old machine that just did its thing every day with only minor maintenance and repairs. (I think the power source has been swapped out a few times) The manufacturer was long defunct and the plan was to keep the thing running indefinitely. Pretty sure it’s still there!
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by benibela on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:24PM
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That also reminds me of Vernor Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by pjmorris on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:27AM
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There is a great chapter on the F1's engineering and development in 'Apollo: Race To The Moon', Murray and Cox. The whole book focuses on the engineering and management challenges involved in putting a man on the moon and returning him safely in one decade.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by NikolaNovak on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:31AM
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Amazing article - I don't know why but I just gulp everything I can about Apollo and related programmes, and that article was fascinating :-)
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by WalterBright on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:42AM
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The 757 was the last Boeing airplane drawn by hand. CAD systems were there, but they were terrible.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by coredog64 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @10:38AM
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One of the consequences of this was that there were many parts on the 747 that were fundamentally the same part but had different part numbers (think physical copy/paste). Boeing had a huge effort turn of the century to rationalize those types of situations.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by actionfromafar on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:38AM
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And that it was economically feasible to do so.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by uwagar on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:39AM
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i love engineering drawings. would be so cool if they could scan them all and put it up online at internet archive or similar.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by kridsdale1 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:50AM
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There is likely OPSEC issues with making that intellectual property public. The government and military use a lot of 747.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by brewdad on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:20AM
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My son is interning with an aviation parts supplier. He's had to deal with a few of those older drawings while developing custom jigs. They are amazing pieces of skill and fine detail.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by kamaal on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:45AM
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That's what engineering management is all about, taming and controlling complexity in such mega engineering projects.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory
by ehvatum on Thursday December 08, 2022 @12:08PM
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That’s the dream, but need and incentive must meet for it to be the reality.
The whole thing was designed on paper, with hordes of draftsmen drawing every single section, detail, etc.
I’m always impressed at how complex things could be with no CAD