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Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by turtledragonfly on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:48AM (#33891053)
Fun statistic: the Wright Bros' first flight was shorter than a 747 is from tip to tail. (their 4th flight was a bit longer, though)
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by function_seven on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @01:51AM (#33891447)
My dad’s favorite line about it: If you put all the blueprints produced during the design of the 747, in the 747, it wouldn’t be able to take off.

The whole thing was designed on paper, with hordes of draftsmen drawing every single section, detail, etc.

I’m always impressed at how complex things could be with no CAD

Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by turtledragonfly on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:03AM (#33891854)
Your comment reminded me of an article about another massive manual-engineering feat: the F1 engines powering the Saturn V rocket. Just the amount of hand-welding alone is phenomenal.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2013/04/how-nasa-brought-the...

Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by Sakos on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @05:16AM (#33892694)
That article has such Asimov's Foundation vibes. Maybe it's just me. The amount of effort going into refurbishing old technology instead of designing something new reminds me of that decrepit old Empire that's reliant on technology designed and built thousands of years ago and all the knowledge being lost.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by Spooky23 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:44AM (#33894236)
It’s weird for sure. The number of important things that people don’t understand is always surprising although it’s very common.

Early in my career I had an “Asimov moment” firsthand - I was an intern working on a project to instrument an industrial facility with better sensors, etc. The whole place was dependent on a 100 year old machine that just did its thing every day with only minor maintenance and repairs. (I think the power source has been swapped out a few times) The manufacturer was long defunct and the plan was to keep the thing running indefinitely. Pretty sure it’s still there!

Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by benibela on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @12:24PM (#33897191)
That also reminds me of Vernor Vinge's A Deepness in the Sky
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by pjmorris on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @08:27AM (#33894070)
There is a great chapter on the F1's engineering and development in 'Apollo: Race To The Moon', Murray and Cox. The whole book focuses on the engineering and management challenges involved in putting a man on the moon and returning him safely in one decade.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by NikolaNovak on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:31AM (#33893208)
Amazing article - I don't know why but I just gulp everything I can about Apollo and related programmes, and that article was fascinating :-)
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by WalterBright on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @04:42AM (#33892458)
The 757 was the last Boeing airplane drawn by hand. CAD systems were there, but they were terrible.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by coredog64 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @10:38AM (#33895573)
One of the consequences of this was that there were many parts on the 747 that were fundamentally the same part but had different part numbers (think physical copy/paste). Boeing had a huge effort turn of the century to rationalize those types of situations.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by actionfromafar on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:38AM (#33891679)
And that it was economically feasible to do so.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by uwagar on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:39AM (#33892068)
i love engineering drawings. would be so cool if they could scan them all and put it up online at internet archive or similar.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by kridsdale1 on Thursday December 08, 2022 @11:50AM (#33910081)
There is likely OPSEC issues with making that intellectual property public. The government and military use a lot of 747.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by brewdad on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @11:20AM (#33896173)
My son is interning with an aviation parts supplier. He's had to deal with a few of those older drawings while developing custom jigs. They are amazing pieces of skill and fine detail.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by kamaal on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @02:45AM (#33891728)
That's what engineering management is all about, taming and controlling complexity in such mega engineering projects.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by ehvatum on Thursday December 08, 2022 @12:08PM (#33910315)
That’s the dream, but need and incentive must meet for it to be the reality.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by spoils19 on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:16AM (#33891917)
Agreed. I kind of envy those guys working on these projects. I hope I was the one there.
Re:Boeing’s last 747 is rolling out of the factory by rahen on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @06:56AM (#33893371)
Drawn on paper, and calculations done with slide rules. They were still widely used in engineering.