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Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by colmmacc on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @10:32AM (#33881655)
This looks really cool, and it'll be interesting to see how artists and producers react. Presumably the tracks need to be mixed for the format with dedicated vocal track. Although it's possible to isolate vocals some of the time from mixes, using stereo separation (the vocals are often the only component that is 100% center mixed), filtering, and even AI techniques ... none are perfect.

I wonder if this will have the real killer feature of professional karaoke ... the ability to transpose the song into a more convenient key for the singer. Apple have had this capability in Logic Pro's pitch shift and it's pretty good even on polyphonic music. Some Karaoke platforms use midi and midi-like formats and synthesize the instruments to do it, but I'd be surprised to see that here.

Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by batesy on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:02AM (#33882200)
Serato just released Stems, which allows DJs to isolate drums, bassline, vocals in the tracks they are playing live. The algos are getting pretty damn good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2Wy9szxU3A

Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by soylentcola on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:35AM (#33882789)
I remember seeing something like this in VirtualDJ the last time I fired it up and updated a few years ago. Only noticed because they'd remapped the high/mid/low EQ knobs on my old Numark controller to remove bass, drums, vox, etc.

Wasn't what I was looking for initially but it was surprisingly good compared to the older "vocal remover" type plugins I remember having for Winamp et al back in the day. If I ever actually DJed anymore it would definitely be useful for mixing tracks.

Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by CrypticShift on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @12:58PM (#33884316)
And this is real-time (Like the apple sing). So it is a game changer for DJs (usability-wise)
Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by ghostpepper on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:26AM (#33882629)
Wait, there are Karaoke machines that can transpose songs?
Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by soylentcola on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:52AM (#33883126)
Most DJ software these days has tempo/key adjustment as well as hooks to connect to subscription karaoke services (basically Spotify for karaoke). Unless I had a business with a ton of old school gear, that's how I'd run a karaoke company nowadays. No worries about licensing/rights for songs, updating your collection with the autotuned robot song of the week, and easy to connect a laptop/mixer to an existing sound system or your own PA.
Re:Apple Introduces Apple Music Sing by Closi on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @12:18PM (#33883598)
> Presumably the tracks need to be mixed for the format with dedicated vocal track.

Nope - it's using ML.

Source: https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/06/apple-music-is-getting-a-n...