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Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by reducesuffering on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @01:48AM (#33876641)
How does any of this help a typical financial products consumer? Can you explain where I can do $0.00 transactions to my friends? Can you point me to where I can get a better deal on a refinance or HELOC loan with my house as collateral?

Because I love financial products that help me retain my earned money, and am avid about getting the best deals. Right now I have 0$ transactions, 3.75% actual guaranteed returns on cash (not a 50% chance of being worth $0 by next year a la FTX, genesis, blockfi, etc.), 3% cash back on transactions that cost a business 2.5%, and would love a cheaper HELOC than traditional banks. However, none of anything you mentioned actually does any of this better, the things that 99.8% people actually want, rather than speculative "investments" they're hoping to sell for more later.

What's that YC slogan again? "Make something people want."

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by justinc8687 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @02:35AM (#33876867)
> "3% cash back on transactions that cost a business 2.5%"

What does this reference?

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by reducesuffering on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @02:43AM (#33876913)
My US credit card makes a $100 transaction earn me $3, while on average the retail business received $97.5.
Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by Mistletoe on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @04:36AM (#33877522)
Everything you mentioned is stuck in this inflationary monetary system.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL

Ethereum offers a way to step outside of it and is creating a decentralized, deflationary money.

https://ultrasound.money/

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by dmitriid on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @07:36AM (#33878696)
> is creating a decentralized, deflationary money

Deflationary money means "whoever got in early and got the most money is going to be ultra-rich forever, unlike the poor sods who get in years/generations from now"

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by Mistletoe on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @10:56AM (#33882085)
These graphs seem to say otherwise. Leaving the gold standard seems to have ushered in the current dystopia we find ourselves in. The gold standard wasn’t perfect for sure, but having to have money rooted in something instead of nothing seems to have kept wage improvements for all classes, not just the elite.

https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

If you think about it when you turn on a money printer, those closest to it (elites, the well connected) are going to catch most of it.

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by dmitriid on Wednesday December 07, 2022 @03:26AM (#33891985)
> These graphs seem to say otherwise.

Which graphs? I wasn't talking about 1971 or the largely US-specific chart of not compensating people.

I'm talking about deflationary currency. With a deflationary currency people who got in early and got the larger part of the pie will for ever be ultra rich, and get richer.

Because the money you get now will only increase in value over time. So you got in early and got a single coin X for something. Congrats, you're nearly infinitely richer than, say, your grand kids who'll be getting fractions of a percent of that coin for that same something.

Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by shakow on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @02:02PM (#33885268)
I;m not going to comment on the crypto side, but I would argue that your conclusion also applies to the traditional currency system; it's not like created money was freely handle to the poorest.
Re:Fe: next generation smart contract language for Ethereum by reducesuffering on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @12:11PM (#33883494)
Only one of the uses I mentioned is harmed by inflation. Transactions don’t require me to hold a long position in USD and inflation would be in my favor if I’m holding USD debt. That just leaves USD bank interest, which has the strongest case for it out of any, because ETH and all cryptos lost much more value this year, if you were lucky enough to not be in the 50% holdings where your “account” was fraudulently wiped out a la FTX and BlockFi.

ETH is also inflationary…

As I expected; a whole bunch of buzz words and given the chance to produce a single real example, no actual use case for the 99.8% consumer.