Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s Docuseries as Fiction

Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by flebron on Sunday December 04, 2022 @06:26PM (#33859201)

That seems a weird use of the word. By that notion, every convicted criminal is a victim, because the court imposed a sentence that they, presumably, do not like. This removes practically all meaning from the word "victim". In common parlance, well-understood consequences of one's own actions occurring does not make one a victim.

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Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by pessimizer on Sunday December 04, 2022 @06:30PM (#33859243)

> This removes practically all meaning from the word "victim".

No, it removes the personal judgement from the word "victim," where we decide whether a particular victim deserves their punishment as a preliminary to discussing their situation.

edit: i.e. where sympathetic people who are killed are victims, and unsympathetic people are killed are being portrayed as victims. It's an attempt to distract from the material facts of a situation with arguments about language.

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Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by enkid on Sunday December 04, 2022 @07:23PM (#33859712)

But your original reply didn't say "he didn't call himself a victim," it tried to argue why he was a victim. The gp to this reply was pointing out how absurd your definition of victim is. It's not making an argument about whether or not he called himself a victim, it makes an argument about what you yourself defined as a victim.

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Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by pessimizer on Sunday December 04, 2022 @07:44PM (#33859878)

I've made that argument, and you can accept it or not. The larger point is that accusing people of playing victims is always a distraction from actual argument, and the entire thread is evidence of that. It started with irrelevance and ended nowhere.

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Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by posterboy on Sunday December 04, 2022 @08:42PM (#33860335)

> The larger point is that accusing people of playing victims is always a distraction from actual argume

Yes, and when they are really playing they become the victim of their own ploy.

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Re:Archaeologists Ask Netflix to Reclassify Graham Hancock’s... by bdowling on Monday December 05, 2022 @01:05AM (#33862053)

If a court ignored the law and imposed a criminal sentence merely because it didn't like the defendant, then that would be an injustice and you would call the convicted person a victim.

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