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Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by chemmail on Saturday December 03, 2022 @05:59PM (#33848381)
Holy shit this is so bad now, even Macbooks and iPads are not immune. I have an older Macbook Air and Pro and the batteries both go to 0% in under a month, when they were shut down, don't know what they are doing. I also have 2 iPad Pro 11" that just drain sitting there, under a week it would be almost dead, i didn't even look at them. I thought it was something wrong with my iPad at first, but a second one does the exact same thing.

It wasn't always like this. We still use an iPad 2 and 4 for CC processing and they don't need to be charged for 2-3 months at a time!!! It is definitely on newer devices. I have a Yoga 1 that i can have in sleep for almost a month and I can still have it turn on with some percentage of battery i can do a few things.

What Microsoft and everyone else it seems, is doing is maddening, the batteries are getting worst, and you simply cannot just rely on a device to be usable anymore without being next to a power outlet and probably even waiting 15minutes before they can even power up.

Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by rcarmo on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:12PM (#33848487)
Turn off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Modern iOS keeps polling and doing stuff in the background regardless.

I actually built two Shortcuts to simultaneously toggle low power mode and all wireless connectivity. I have an older iPad I use for videos and podcasts while exercising that lasts over a week by using those, with zero power usage in between sessions.

Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by gnicholas on Saturday December 03, 2022 @07:18PM (#33849037)
I have found the same as GP. I have an iPad Mini Retina (2014?) and an iPad Pro (2018). I once ran a test with both of them in airplane mode, and the Mini outlasted the Pro by a mile.

My hypothesis is that the Mini still runs iOS, and the Pro runs iPadOS. I think I started noticing the Pro standby battery drain after "upgrading" the Pro to iPadOS, whenever that came out.

Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by pulse7 on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:32PM (#33848656)
<sarcasm>"don't know what they are doing" -> maybe just sending your data out to some agency... but don't worry - "you have nothing to hide"...</sarcasm>
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by crooked-v on Saturday December 03, 2022 @07:07PM (#33848946)
With the Apple devices, you probably have the 'Power Nap' setting turned on, which tells it to occasionally silently wake briefly to get background updates (emails, notifications, etc).
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by jscheel on Saturday December 03, 2022 @07:55PM (#33849307)
Nah, I’ve seen it too. I have everything turned off, but it still attempts to turn on randomly. I’ve even set up a script to turn off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth when I close the lid.
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by acchow on Saturday December 03, 2022 @09:51PM (#33850080)
I don't even see this option anymore on the M1 Macbook Pro. I suspect you can't disable power nap on M1
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by jiggawatts on Saturday December 03, 2022 @10:15PM (#33850216)
With iDevices the unexplained drain is probably the Find My feature in action.

The way it works is that the Bluetooth and GPS stacks are powered on every few seconds briefly, even if the device is supposedly off.

iPhones that have "home" buttons demonstrates this not-true-sleep very well. The button looks like it is embedded in the front glass very well with a nice satisfying click when it's depressed...

...except that it's not a button at all. It's just a polished circular indent in the glass! There is no moving part.

The click? That's haptic feedback from the vibration motor that works even if the phone is "off". If the phone loses all power or is truly turned off, then suddenly the button goes dead and you realise that it's just smooth glass. I had that phone for years before I first noticed this.

Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by tmptmpgo on Saturday December 03, 2022 @11:29PM (#33850617)
That is incorrect. I have definitely noticed that the haptics do not activate if the iPhone is turned off. Unless this is something they’ve started doing with newer versions of iOS that I have only used on a buttonless iPhone.
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by wincy on Sunday December 04, 2022 @01:26AM (#33851165)
It’s funny, if you want your battery life to be really good on an iPhone, just put it in airplane mode. This even disabled the Find My stuff that stays on when powered off.
Re:Microsoft Is Forcing Me to Buy MacBooks – Windows Modern ... by benhurmarcel on Sunday December 04, 2022 @04:28PM (#33858094)
> I also have 2 iPad Pro 11" that just drain sitting there

I find that having an Apple Pencil 2 snapped on the side makes the iPad drain its battery.