Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by f38zf5vdt on Saturday December 03, 2022 @12:44PM
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In terms of burdening the already dysfunctional healthcare and criminal justice systems of the US, it sounds like it works great. If the junkies no longer exist and less frequently get HIV, their cost to society is less than if they were alive, disease spreading, and committing crime.
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Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by nkrisc on Saturday December 03, 2022 @01:07PM
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Why not extend this to everyone? When your projected costs to society exceed your projected benefit to society you get ground into food for the rest?
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by f38zf5vdt on Saturday December 03, 2022 @01:18PM
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There is a reason economics is called "the dismal science". Most resources on the planet are finite and their consumption is a zero-sum game. If one less drug addict means having the public resources to supply one more diabetic child with life-saving insulin, which would you choose?
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by mcguire on Saturday December 03, 2022 @02:31PM
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Essentially all choices real people make are not economically optimal.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by moonchrome on Saturday December 03, 2022 @06:05PM
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> Most resources on the planet are finite and their consumption is a zero-sum game.
This is such a ridiculous viewpoint on a hacker forum. There are no intrinsic resources - iron ore is just a bunch of rocks, crude oil is a toxic sludge, Uranium is a bunch of radioactive ore.
Economy is not a zero sum game, it's about allocating current resources to expand future ones (AKA growth)
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by f38zf5vdt on Saturday December 03, 2022 @09:31PM
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There is only one hospitable planet. Observe how we have treated it.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by nkrisc on Saturday December 03, 2022 @08:09PM
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That’s a false choice that doesn’t exist and nothing more than a thought experiment.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by the_only_law on Saturday December 03, 2022 @03:05PM
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> Why not extend this to everyone?
They already implicitly did. Turns out the dysfunctional criminal justice and medical system the praise affect more than just addicts. Who would have thought.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by giraffe_lady on Saturday December 03, 2022 @12:55PM
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This comment is an excellent example of how you can openly call for violence against the vulnerable on HN without censure or consequence as long as you do it in a certain tone.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by throwayyy479087 on Saturday December 03, 2022 @01:01PM
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Saying that we shouldn’t enable certain behavior is not violence. Violence is violence, stop messing with the meaning of words.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by giraffe_lady on Saturday December 03, 2022 @01:11PM
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What is the meaningful difference between killing someone yourself and letting them die when it's in your power to prevent it?
Saying that a certain population should die because of their criminal nature and high "cost to society" is straight up nazi shit. What's the policy implementation of that opinion just curious? It really doesn't get more clear than this.
Re:America’s syringe exchanges kill drug users
by ROTMetro on Saturday December 03, 2022 @02:59PM
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I am sure you currently work with or have family members who secretly are addicts. Labeling them as a cost to society, disease spreading, and committing crime and justifying their death instead of talking about them as people in pain is definitely disgusting and not the type of discourse I would have expected from this site. But hey, keep on with your reductionism as justification for complicity in peoples deaths. Also remember, they can't get needles not because they don't want to buy them but because it is illegal to sell them.