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Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by warrenm on Thursday December 01, 2022 @09:20AM (#33816528)
I'd say "boring" is not - usually - "worse"

Most of the time, it's far better: boring works. Boring pays the bills. Boring gets more people to use something. Boring is ubiquitous.

Everything "new" eventually becomes "boring" - and that's good

Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by kome on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:02PM (#33819089)
fair, but it's still boring. i have seen a better internet...
Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by warrenm on Friday December 02, 2022 @09:01AM (#33830490)
>i have seen a better internet...

I've been online for just shy of 30 years

Can't say I've seen a "better" internet in terms of aesthetics ever

Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by esparrohack on Thursday December 01, 2022 @03:13PM (#33822047)
Yeah, that’s a HN fortune cookie.

You’re saying boring is popular which goes against the principles of aesthetics. People think pretty things are better quality. You do too.

Boring gets forgotten and replaced. Boring is not ubiquitous.

Notice how zed Shaw tried that quixotic ugly website trend. Supposedly that’s what the world wanted. The world ignored it.

I know what you mean tho. Boring refers to old tech vs new hype. The issue is they used the word “boring” to denote “mature” software, and that’s where it all went wrong.

Bad form.

Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by warrenm on Friday December 02, 2022 @09:26AM (#33830771)
>People think pretty things are better quality. You do too.

some people think pretty=better quality

I am not one of them - I think better quality=better quality

>Boring gets forgotten and replaced. Boring is not ubiquitous.

Boring is ubiquitous - Diesel engines are boring. Diesel engines are ubiquitous. Apache is boring. Apache is ubiquitous. Wordpress is boring. Wordpress is ubiquitous. Reinforced concrete is boring. Reinforced concrete is ubiquitous. iOS is boring. iOS is ubiquitous. 1/4-20 bolts are boring. 1/4-20 bolts are ubiquitous. SQL is boring. SQL is ubiquitous.

Boring doesn't get "forgotten and replaced" - it gets used by everyone everywhere ... the very definition of "ubiquitous" :)

Boring doesn't equal "ugly" - that you think it does seems to speak to your lack of understanding of the nature of engineering: engineers love "boring" because boring works. Boring is reliable. Boring lets you build bigger things because all those boring things Just Work™

Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by esparrohack on Friday December 02, 2022 @10:39AM (#33831921)
Yeah see. You need to read other stuff than engineering blogs.

Everyone likes prettier things. You need to prove that it’s not. Where’s your proof?

You’re making up your own definition of boring. It’s just a bunch of talking points I’ve heard forever.

I’ve read the same stuff you did. But nobody outside of tech could call diesel “boring” tech

Re:Ask HN: Are there things that Flash did that we still can... by warrenm on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @11:52AM (#33883120)
>You’re making up your own definition of boring. It’s just a bunch of talking points I’ve heard forever.

Thank you for agreeing that my definition of boring is commonplace