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Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by caskstrength on Thursday December 01, 2022 @06:45AM (#33815045)
> I’d honestly not want an immigrant in my country who lives there for 10 years without learning the language. What a way to not make any effort to integrate into your chosen society.

Maybe they just there to save some amount of money and go back to their country?

Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by kaesar14 on Thursday December 01, 2022 @05:58PM (#33824201)
That's not an excuse for not integrating into a culture with the bare minimum amount of effort. It is not hard to learn a language with 10 years of immersion.
Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by caskstrength on Friday December 02, 2022 @04:20AM (#33828444)
> It is not hard to learn a language with 10 years of immersion.

Not hard? Which foreign languages did you learn as an adult?

Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by kaesar14 on Friday December 02, 2022 @06:59PM (#33838637)
French to a B2 certificate level from l’Académie Française without living in a Francophone country. Done in 2 years by self studying and forced media immersion. It is not hard to learn a foreign language in 10 years. Also watched my parents learn English in a year as a child moving to an Anglophone country.

Way to cut out the part where I said “it’s not hard to learn a foreign language” and just drop the time scale. It’s of course a lot of work but it is NOT difficult with such an opportunity to absord and practice.

Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by caskstrength on Saturday December 03, 2022 @04:06AM (#33841985)
Wow, good for you! Me and most people I discussed it with didn't find learning foreign languages easy. They consider it rather hard, in fact.
Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by kaesar14 on Saturday December 03, 2022 @05:34PM (#33848169)
Every human being can learn to speak any language in 10 years. Poor immigrants do it in their chosen nations of residence all the time. Anyone who doesn’t is not trying, I’m sad to say.
Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by caskstrength on Monday December 05, 2022 @04:41PM (#33872290)
You are moving the goalpost from "bare minimum amount of effor ... not hard..." to "can learn in 10 years", I'm sad to say.
Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by kaesar14 on Tuesday December 06, 2022 @09:32PM (#33890016)
My original message, verbatim:

“That's not an excuse for not integrating into a culture with the bare minimum amount of effort. It is not hard to learn a language with 10 years of immersion.”

Is it hard to learn a language in a year? Yes! That is not what I said. I said that not making the modicum of effort required over 10 years of practice and immersion required to achieve functional fluency is not difficult. It simply is not. The passive input alone is absolutely enormous, and it’s the least you can do to a country that’s graciously accepted you into its own borders.

Re:DoorDash Lays of 1250 Employees by caskstrength on Thursday December 08, 2022 @07:17AM (#33907055)
> the least you can do to a country that’s graciously accepted you into its own borders

I'm sorry? Maybe more like "invited to prop up ponzi-pyramid of welfare state that the ageing local population can't sustain anymore"?