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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by ProAm on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:26PM (#33810347)
> Your data is (mostly) safe from advertisers because that's not their business.

I think with Apple this ship is slowly sailing, and the tracking will soon be just as bad as Google.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by s3p on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:31PM (#33810424)
How so? I think their strides in fields like differential privacy show how willing they are to protect their end users.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by ProAm on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:47PM (#33810609)
I personally think their migration to subscription based revenue and advertising says differently (just personal opinion). Were now the product with Apple too, not the customer. We used to pay more to not deal with that.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by api on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:37PM (#33811089)
It seems that advertisers can outbid users to the point that nobody is willing to pay enough to be the customer.

The amount of money in advertising is staggering. Can it actually work that well? Or is this a category of spending that just tends to be greenlit in big companies?

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by jonathankoren on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:43PM (#33811149)
There’s a huge difference, including from a privacy perspective, between subscriptions and internet targeted advertising.

How are you the product, when you’re giving money? That’s like saying, when you buy a ticket to Black Panther, you are the product Hollywood is selling, not the movie.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:47PM (#33811181)
> How are you the product, when you’re giving money?

Why can't you be both? After all, an advertiser's best target is someone who already has a propensity to spend. Companies can and do sell you stuff then also target you for ads.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by jonathankoren on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:11PM (#33819227)
I shouldn’t have to say this, but those are two different things, and just because you on tape them together doesn’t mean they’re identical.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by satvikpendem on Thursday December 01, 2022 @12:15PM (#33819297)
I don't understand what you're saying. Why can't a company sell you something then also advertise to you?