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Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by m-p-3 on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:11PM (#33806941)
And you'd still have the choice to install it or not. Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse.

The core idea is choice.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by dmitrygr on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @03:18PM (#33807034)
Are you that dense? The point is that currently one can use facebook (Sadly necessary for many people) and NOT give them all the data. In your world it would not be possible.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by donmcronald on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @04:10PM (#33807741)
The PC is an open platform and that's allowed for things like Firefox with UBlock Origin and Facebook Container. That's much better than what Apple's doing isn't it?

Apple isn't some altruist protecting you from Facebook. The most likely scenario is that Apple wants to be the sole owner of your data so they can sell it instead of Facebook selling it. I bet Apple's ad business grows substantially over the next 5 years.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by lern_too_spel on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @04:50PM (#33808294)
Despite Android allowing Facebook to create its own store, you can use Facebook on Android and not give them all your data. Even better, you can install apps that aren't allowed in the Play Store or the App Store (like ReVanced, Instander, and Blokada) that change the behavior of the Facebook app to collect less data.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by Sunspark on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:53PM (#33810673)
My solution for the FB problem is to not use any FB app at all, and just use FB in the mobile browser. Why do I need an app?
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by LegitShady on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:10PM (#33808566)
If you want to use facebook, you either use the app or the web site.

If you don't want to use the app or the website, don't use facebook.

They made it so you have to use an app to use facebook messenger even though before you didn't have to, so I stopped using it and let everyone know you can't find me on facebook messenger.

Problem solved.

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by sureglymop on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @07:32PM (#33810444)
First of all, a bit insulting. Secondly, that same freedom also allows you to install a patched Facebook client that doesn't track you at all. On Android you have such freedoms... Recently i wanted to capture app traffic with a man in the middle proxy but for it to work i had to patch the certificate pinning in the apk. In your world however you also might just give all your data to Apple, falsely thinking that Apple is actually protecting you in some way.
Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by tshaddox on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @08:30PM (#33811025)
> Android still allows their users to sideload apps, and it hasn't been the apocalypse.

"Not being the apocalypse" is a pretty low bar. Is it not the case that Android has a much worse history of problems with third-party software, including security, privacy, battery life, etc.?

Re:Spotify CEO renews attack on Apple after Musk's salvo by lern_too_spel on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @10:30PM (#33811996)
Indeed, it is not the case. Android has far more apps that respect privacy than iOS has, and (unlike iOS) it lets you set them as defaults.