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Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by TimTheTinker on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @02:03PM (#33791698)
The problem is that there's so much unexplored territory in operating system design. "Everything is a file" and the other *nix assumptions are too often just assumed to be normal. So much more is possible.
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by dlinz on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:01PM (#33792465)
Curious student here, would you mind elaborating a bit on this unexplored territory?
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by mrguyorama on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:29PM (#33792831)
This is a bit like asking "Can you elaborate on particle physics" in 1900. The point is that we don't know because there's been so little experimentation in the space. Not a lot of funding for "build an OS that uses completely different idioms and concepts to what we know, possibly without even a goal other than trying something out".
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by random314 on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:28PM (#33792819)
Smalltalk vms, forth, Oberon, lisp machines, amoeba etc
Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by TimTheTinker on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @05:22PM (#33794212)
Here's a HN comment from earlier this week that elaborates on some earlier operating systems that explored some really novel ideas: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33768592

To summarize:

> ITS (of PDP-10 hacker fame) - processes could debug and introspect their child processes. The debugger was always available, basically. The operating system provided support for breakpoints, single-stepping, examining process memory, etc.

> KeyKOS (developed by Tymshare for their commercial computing services in the 1970s) - A capability operating system. If everything in UNIX was a file, then everything in KeyKOS was a memory page, and capabilities (keys) to access those pages.

In every operating system, the basic unit of abstraction will be a process -- which necessitates a scheduler, some form of memory protection, some way for the process to interact with the kernel, and the notions of "kernel space" and "user space". There is a lot of room for innovation there (see ITS), but I suspect most of the room for innovation is in how an OS abstracts/refers to various parts of the system.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by lazide on Tuesday November 29, 2022 @03:41PM (#33792988)
Possible, but apparently rarely worth the extra effort or complexity to think about.

The Unix ‘everything is a file’ has done well because it works pretty well.

It also isn’t generally a security issue, because it allows application of the nature things we use for files (ACLs, permissions, etc), without having to come up with some new bespoke idea.

Re:Tales of the M1 GPU by saagarjha on Wednesday November 30, 2022 @05:26AM (#33798984)
You do realize that RTKit is not a Unix-like OS, right?